Rectocele :: Surgery Or Physio ?
Apr 30, 2016
I had cystocele and hysterocele surgery 5 months ago and after surgery I have developed a rectocele. It is mild but I have problems in the bathroom and feel like a ball in my rectum constantly.
I went to my check last week and my gyn confirmed that I have a rectocele. He saw also some stitches inside my vagina. He told me to have surgery for the rectocele and he would remove the stitches in the op also. He told me not to worry, he would use stitches for the rectocele repair (not mesh). He scheduled the op for June.
Well... the following day I had an app with my physio who said "DO NOT OPERATE THE RECTOCELE!!!". He explained that my rectocele is mild, he is sure that I can fix it with rehabilitation. Rectocele surgery has bad results, he said, and many problems afterwards with sex. Is that true?
It is the same situation I lived two years ago, when I began to feel the cysto and hysterocele, the physio said not to operate, but after 1 year physio treatment, finally I had to operate.
What do I do? . I do believe in physiotherapy, but as a complement of surgery. For my experience, I don't believe in it as a substitute of surgery. Should I postpone the op, do the physio treatment and see what it happens? Or should I operate now? It would be very stressful for me to have like a year of treatment just to have the surgery finally. What do you think?
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I have rectal & vagina vault prolapse - Rectocele & Cystocele( lower 1/3rd) and sex is quite painful and difficult. I have 3 choices at the moment ;
1/ do nothing until the prolapse gets much worst but this means having uncomfortable & sometimes painful sex ..I am coping with bladder & bowel problems with kegal exercises but hate the look and feeling of it down there.
2nd... try a pressery? If I pressary works my Gyna would preform a much simple perinuem repair to fix the tight skin problem. This still involves stiches so I wonder if pressary is the way to go and I have heard that can affect sex too? or have the surgery. I had huge cuts to deliver my first child as she was stuck in my birth channel and then they figure I didn't had the width to deliver here???!!!. So many stiches and at least 2 further opreations to try and correct the terrible job the first surgeon had done on me. I have literally a thin area of skin in my perinium that is only about a 1 cm wide which is treched so tightly it hurts when touched. Sex has been uncomfortable for the past 30 years and several positions are out of the question. As I have grown older 58 now and the symptoms of menopause have raised their ugly heads. This area has lost its elasticity and has become hard and very taut.
3/ Do the surgery for the rectocelle & cystocele .. I really worry especially after reading this forum that it won't fix the problem and could make it heaps worst.
Does anyone have any stats on % of successful operations? This site is full of bad experiences.
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Had injection, acupuncture and this week had second physio session which yesterday and today I am in agony with it.
It keeps me awake at night and I'm in a desk job using the mouse on pc during the day.
Its now going into the neck and even though im on naproxen too twice a day and I have rolled my head from side to side and done gentle exercise, it's the worst its been today and I feel so sad from it and in tears most of the day just for some relief. Unfortunately no partner to rub it better.
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Hi I had ulnar shortening on my right arm on 11/9/13 and have been placed in a full arm cast until I have it taken off on 30/10/13, can anyone advise me on the physio process after the opp and what I'm likely to be able to achieve after periods of time, I'm currently off work as my job needs me to be able to use my arms/ hands at all times, I'm also right handed.
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I'm wondering if anyone has had this in the past year. What can I expect? Any words of wisdom?
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I'm due to have Rectocele and cystocele repair. I had my last consultation with my surgeon back in August 2015 had my pre op assessment in September. I was told I would be in for surgery around December and I'm still waiting, I spoke to someone at the gynae waiting list team today and they said I'm not even on the list yet as they are so far behind. I completely understand that they are busy and their are woman out there a lot worse then me it's just that walking and lifting is becoming a real pain and I'm sick of taking co dydramol which blocks me up when I already struggle to go to the toilet for a bm.
Sorry for ranting I just wondered if anybody had any advice as I'm starting feel like I'm moaning all the time to my husband.
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I am worried that after my repair I will be left with a bigger vagina. When I push my front wall to where it should be I have a gap below my fingers. This really concerns me as I don't want to be bigger than I am now! I know Rectocele repairs can make the vagina narrower but the front wall of the vagina is attached to the pubic bone so is very different. Can anyone tell me how it was after your Cystocele repair?
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I am a 53 year old and had this surger y 8 days ago. I had a cystocele before and recovery was only a couple of days but unfortunately i had to have it redone. I and am very surprised at how sore my bottom is and my legs just feel tired. I am normally very active and find it hard to not be able to do much. I havent drove yet just don't feel I could even walk from parked car into a store. Just wanted to know how long before it started to feel better and back to somewhat normal.
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I have a rectocele and I am getting it repaired next month. When I saw the surgeon she said I also had some stress incontinence based on the urodynamics study that she did. I know I do, but it isn't bad. Sometimes a drop when I sneeze but it's not awful. She said it might get worse after the rectocele repair and suggested a mid-urethral sling. It is made of a synthetic mesh.
Any suggestions on resources for information about this procedure? Right now I don't feel like the symptoms are bad enough to risk side effects but I don't have enough information to decide.
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I have rectal prolapse, enterocele, & rectocele ,plus chronic pain disease & other issues. I have to manually remove my bowels, which is very painful and getting worse. I have seen rectal colon docs and urogynae. Some want to do a colostomy, and some want to do a robotic rectopexy on me. Ism in my 70's, and need help I don't know what to do.
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I had a cystocele and rectocele repair on the 21st (so 4 days ago). The doctor used a tape sling for the cystocele and stitching for the rectocele. I honestly had no idea what to expect and didn't even know that he would be cutting 2 slits on my outer labia. What's actually hurting me now are the interior stitches which I assume are from the rectocele repair. I wanted to check out what was going on down there and there is a lump, almost like 1/2 of a finder, bulging out of my vaginal canal. Is this normal? Am I just swollen?
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I have just joined this forum, but been reading it for a while. I have had no surgery yet, don't even know if it will be offered, but am already suffering from many of the problems mentioned in this thread. I have a large rectocele and a large rectum. Consultant not sure what to do- proctogram inconclusive. Since I saw the consultant a couple of weeks ago, things seem to have got dramatically worse- needing more Movicol. Also tried a suppository today.Rectal pain and numbness. The consultant may examine me under anaesthetic. I also have another problem which is complicating everything- venous insufficiency- like varicose veins- have to wear compression stockings all the time and elevate my feet as much as possible. I am convinced it was caused by straining on the loo, so from what you are all saying, there is no guarantee that surgery would prevent straining.I just don't know what to do. Surgery sounds so risky, but I can't live like this. I could try Peristeen I suppose, if they thought it suitable for me. Might also try the Milk of magnesia if I can get my hands on it.
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I also can only bear minimum weight on the leg at this stage. At seven weeks does that sound normal? I had my tear at the connection to the heel and had haglund's deformity where part of my heel broke off. Anyone else have that and is minimal weight bearing at seven weeks normal for this type of tear.
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Has anyone found anything to help neuropathy after ALIF surgery? It has been 19 months and the pain is increasing. I cannot bear to wear anything except the loosest of clothing, I cannot walk without a cane or walker, I have new bowel and bladder function problems within the last 3 months. Is there anything that would even work temporarily to allow an airport ride? I buy even groceries online. I am in pain management with a respected doctor. I have have PT, water PT, massage, acupuncture, and narcotic medication. The fusion on L4/L5 and L5/S1 is fine; my life is not worth living.
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Anyone out there had this surgery? I'm in week 3 and wondering what to expect going forward.
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To cut a long story short - mid August 2014 I did a sinus rinse for chronically blocked sinuses. It went very wrong and I ended up with water trapped in my left middle ear. It didn't come out by itself and the pain and pressure was getting too much. I saw a GP and we agreed on using a nasal balloon to equalise the ears and try to get the water out. I also tried a few valsalva actions.
One day (first week of September), I was using the balloon when I felt a painful loud click in my right ear. This is where my real problems started.
I now deal with: constant tinnitus in right ear, dizziness, vertigo, some nausea, really bad head pressure, auras, vibrations and buzzy feelings throughout body, deep pain in ear - can almost feel blood or fluid in right ear.
Saw GP and it is a suspected Perilymph Fistula of the round window in the inner ear. I am seeing an ENT privately, hopefully in the next 2 weeks. Thing is, I am in England, UK and I am worried that they don't really deal with PLFs. Then I will be stuffed!
I am currently doing as much bed rest as I can as I read online this is best at this stage. I am however very very worried about what has happened. I am worried about leaking CSF fluid too. I certainly have enough head pressure.
Can this really heal with bed rest or do I need surgery? Also, I am scared about my tinnitus getting worse with surgery. Anyone who has had PLF repair surgery, what was the outcome? Did your tinnitus get worse or better in the end? Did the head pressure go? Has anyone recovered just with bed rest?
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I had surgery for Hyperparathyroidism a year ago. I had 4 gland hyperplasia, which meant they removed 3 plus a part of the 4th gland. Immediately after surgery, I of course developed hypocalcemia. Since then, my Calcium numbers have fluctuated and I have had better and worse readings. However, my PTH has never gone above 19, and my last reading was 14. My Vitamin D is at 43 and my "active" D is apparently doing what it should be doing so I do not require Calcitriol to get things working. But, I still have issues with keeping my calcium up, and of course the attendant tingling, and etc.
My real concern is two-fold. One, is it safe to keep taking supplements given the conflicting data on males taking calcium, and Two, is there any harm in long term chronic hypocalcemia? I have read about heart issues and hypocalcemia, but I am assuming this is with respects very low and long term calcium issues. Also, anyone know of any ways to raise PTH at all? Funny how high PTH was an issue before surgery and now low PTH is...
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I was wondering how many of you are considering gastric band surgery?
I went o see my doctor about it, and he said that, although I fulfill all criteria for the op, they wouldn't consider me uless I have tried Orlistat first, so that's why he has given me them.
I have 8 stones to lose, so presumably wouldn't be able to take Orlistat for that long!
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My name is Gary. I am 57 and have had problems with hemorrhoids for years. It was getting to where I was spending two weeks out of the month basically ok due to constipation from opiate medication I have to take. Then one week where I use the prep H to push the roids back into place. Then often a week of just pain, stool softeners vs pain killers, and out of service.
I got referred to a surgeon recently and he said I had a bad case and set me up for surgery. They decided to do a colonistmy (colon probe. where I guess they pump you full of air and put a tube all the way up). I did not know that it was that extensive or I might of gone without it..at least not with this surgery.
I was told afterwards that I had some of the largest they had seen. Also the colon test showed some polyps they had to burn out. They did not look cancerous.
I had trouble getting cleaned out prior to surgery due to the pain and the opiates. As required I took 250 grams of miralax stool softener, 4 laxatives, and waited. I took them at 4 pm, had surgery lined up for 8:00 am with a 6:00am arrival. The drugs did not take effect until 1:00am so I was up until we had to leave for the hospital still on the toilet..and in severe pain.
I was still eliminating when we arrived. I was given a couple of ememas to use on myself. I couldn't hold them but they came out clear so they started the surgery, colon probe, and prostate exam.
I awoke after 2 hours of surgery. I was still under the anesthesia (I was put out) and not in terrible pain. I got up and was able to urinate. I had packing in me and was told to go home, take a bath, and they would come out. I had terrible cramps and gut pain, prostate pain, and severe anus pain. I have lots of stitches down there.
I went home and ate a small bowl of cereal and some oatmeal...and waited. I drank a bunch of juice and water but could not urinate. I was leaking blood everywhere. I took several baths and finally the packing came out. I took stool softeners and drank a lot. Finally the first meal, or what was left over from before, came out in the bath. I didn't have a full bowel push because of the pain but a bunch of crap, in small strings, some packing, and a huge amount of blood came out. I would say a pint.
I ate some more: a bacon and cheese bagel, some oatmeal, and stool softeners. I drank a bunch. I also had to take a bunch of painkillers. One the third day I had an involuntary bowel push but came up empty. I couldn't take the pain. Blood was still coming out in drips all the time with a small amount of feces. I called the doctor and got more pain killers. I set up a plan last night to have a bowel movement this morning. I ate some more oatmeal after one day without food. I took several sleeping pills and some painkillers to stop the urge to have a bowel movement. I had to get up at 12:00am and take more pain killers to stop an early bowel urge which would come up with nothing as is my experience. I awoke at 7:00am, as planned, and held the pain killers aside. I forced a bowel movement and produced a large pile of soft serve sh*t which was full of blood. There was more to come but, now 6 days out, I was in too much pain to push again.
It becomes a real fight to live. I am addicted to painkillers from years of degenerative disk disease and arthritis due to an 80 foot fall in 89. I don't get my refill until the 13th which is 3 more days. I have enough for today. I have stayed away from the long acting painkillers unless I run out. I hope to pass more later today. I will probably try the same procedure.
Again, it is the sixth day, and I still cannot walk without using the furniture. I try and move around as much as possible. I have some blood a fecal leakage which I clean up each time with a bath or a soaking wet warm wash cloth. Then I fold a washcloth in half and put in between my swollen cheeks until dry. They shave you down there and the stubble that grows back is very painful to the opposite side. I have never felt such pain. Each day has been a little better except for the third in which I was worse.
I would've still done the surgery if this all turns out ok. I will eat better, drink more, and do whatever I have to do to keep this from recurring.
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I just had a complicated vasectomy. I had an undescended testicle when I was 12 that had a lot of scar tissue around it. The urologist that I saw said no problem but it would be done in the hospital because he had a hard time feeling the vas tube on the repaired testicle. He said it would take 10 minutes and it ended up taking a hour. He told me I would be sore for a long time, and he was right. It has been 2 weeks and I have begun to get morning erections. There is a string/tube that seems to be stretching around the base of my penis. It is painful when stretched. It seems to lead to the incision by the repaired testicle. Do you think the urethra tube that goes into my penis got sutured into the incision area? I urinate fine. Also, one vas tubes were described as pink-tan rubbery tissue and the one from the repaired one was described as white rubbery tissue. Do I need to be watchful of testicular cancer?
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After a long two years trying to get a Consultant to help me. Yes I found the right one. Mr Fox a vascular surgeon. I saw him on 22nd May 2015. He diagnosed me with two extra ribs "one each side" . And Said he would operate on my left side first, has this was the worst side "pulse was very weak when arm was raised. Had my op on Thursday 4th June 2015. Mr Fox removed my first rib and some muscle. Op started at 10,30 and in recovery room by 2.o'clock. Rib was removed from the front just above collarbone and had draining tube, I was really surprised The pain was on scale 1-10 only a 3. stayed in overnight, drain removed next morning and allowed home late afternoon. Seeing Mr Fox again in six weeks. The only symptoms I have at the moment is tingling down my arm into my fingers, I am hoping this is due to swelling in side. And I find it hard to sleep on my back. I am into my 4th day after op. and to be honest getting bored, I am moving my arm and shoulder ok, but not lifting or doing anything so that things can heal. But I am really pleased at long last one side's done, and when swelling goes down inside, hoping that pins and needles go. time will tell in the next few weeks. Keep you updated weekly on progress. It shows find a great surgeon and you are halfway there. do your research in your area. and don't be frightened to ask for the surgeon you want. it.s your body.
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