Kidney Disease Without Protein In Urine? Kidney Failure?
Jun 17, 2013
Is it possible to have CKD or kidney failure without protein in urine?
Last week my masseuse found a knot in my back that she suspects could be inflammation in my kidney. I've had some weird symptoms popping up over the last month like foot/ankle swelling, profound fatigue, leg cramps and blurry vision. This last week though I began developing SEVERE flank pain (like 9 on a 10 scale), back pain (started out lower, now entire back), horrible nausea, horrible headaches, shooting pains down my legs, metallic taste in mouth, dizziness and loss of appetite. Not to sound melodramatic but I feel like I'm dying. The pain is constant but the intensity seems to be moving in 24 hour cycles. Today I feel awful but I was able to shower/get dressed. Yesterday I couldn't even get out of bed. I slept for 16 hours. It's been going in that pattern for the last week and a half.
My doc did a urine culture last week, got results today and there was no protein in my urine, but I had 3+ ketones and a large amount of leukocytes. Blood work from a month ago just came in and my kidney numbers were off a month ago: BUN (32), Creatinine (1.8), eGFR (33). Between the symptoms and the blood test I'm thinking it sounds like renal failure, but could it be CKD without protein in the urine?
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I was just wondering if anyone has protein in their urine with Chronic Kidney Disease and what did your doctor do about it if anything. I am trying to keep my GFR stable. The last time it went up a bit but am worried about the protein causing more damage quicker.
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For the last five months I have been experiencing blood and protein in my urine. After a very thorough assessment from a urologist everything came back normal. I was referred to see a nephrologist to see if the blood is coming from my kidneys. my kidney panel came back normal except for lower than normal creatinine levels???? but my urinalysis came back all wrong. It's showing 3+ for blood, 100 mg for protein, 1+ bilirubin, urine color is brown, ph of 5.5.
The dr also order a ANA test to check for lupus, but it came back negative. I'm completely lost, can a person have kidney disease w/normal kidney function?or lupus nephritis w/negative ANA test?
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I'm a 37 year old female, 2 years ago at the Birth of daughter I developed severe preeclampsia, and went onto develop pregnancy related heart failure - post Partum cardiomyopathy. I nearly didn't live, but I'm lucky to have recovered full heart function and my heart is now considered normal.
I've known since having the preeclampsia of protein in Urine causing a foamy appearance, I still have this now, and had been testing my own urine with dipsticks over the last 2 years ranging from plus 1 to plus 4 throughout the day. Virtually all morning samples negative.
Last year I was tested at my GP office and an ACR which came back at 98mg. At the Time my GP said re test in 3 months and suggested it still might be my body settling down from the heart failure etc, I continued to test myself and never want back to the doctors because basically I wanted to forgot about illness and live life without worry bringing my daughter up. Now another year later my urine was getting even more foamy, I decided to go back to my GP, I've had the following tests and have been referred to a nephrologist which isn't until the end of September:
eGFR: over 90
ACR: 198 mg
Protein in blood: Normal
ANA: normal ( i have had previously positive ANA two years ago)
FBC: all normal
ESR: Normal
Liver function test: Normal (I also had trace Bilirubin in my urine)
Glucose: Normal
Kidney & bladder ultrasound: Normal
24 hr urine: 0.3grams (300mg)
I know I have been spilling the protein since the preeclampsia, sometimes I have tested my urine all day and it has been Plus 4 for each one, so I'm guessing tallying this up must be well over 2000 mg a day, when I did my 24 hr there was only one urination that showed a plus 3 on dipstick that day which correlates to the 300mg reported over 24hrs
I have low blood pressure naturally 100/60, I'm off all heart medications, I healed quickly and came off them after 6 months of heart failure. I'm not diabetic, it doesn't appear I have any autoimmune disease such as lupus, all my bloods are normal, so is my kidney function, yet I'm still passing quite high amounts of protein.
I know only a nephrologist can help determine what's going on, but my appointment is not until the end of September, I do a lot of googling (too much information i know can make things worse!) and know that protein can continue to make the kidneys worse, I'm concerned there is an underlying condition, and even if its primary how quickly can this progress with high levels of protein? Could I get acute kidney failure? My mother has stage 3 CKD for years and passing no protein, however she is on ACE inhibitors. My GP said I will probably go on these, I was on these for my cardiomyopathy and preeclampsia and once my blood pressure returned to normal I had to come off them as I was very dizzy and light headed. So although they may help kidneys, I'm concerned I won't be able to tolerate them.
Also what could be causing this? primary glomerulonephritis? Could the preeclampsia heart failure have caused permanent damage and hopefully now my heart failure is better no more damage will develop?
I have no other Symptoms at all, all this came about because I noticed my urine was still foamy.
My biggest concern is that although my kidney function is still normal, is it possible it could decline rapidly because of the protein?
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I am looking for more information on the urine protein/creatinine ratio. I have suspected IgAn and recently my protein/creatinine ratio came back at 2.0. My Dr did not explain why that was a concern or how concerning it is, only that I am to repeat the test in 3 months.
What is the normal range? What is considered really bad vs just concerning?
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Test show that I have a enlarged kidney, I have protien in my urine, severe back pain to the right side, strong smelly urine, blood pressure very high now on 10mg blood pressure tablets, Doctors have done tests on my kidneys and say the test shows the kidneys are functioning normally so I have not to go back to hospital for six months.
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Had two tests done, one was a full body check which detected high cholesterol in the blood and rbc count of 22 in urine where 13 was the borderline and nothing else. For the follow up urine test a month later there was protein detected but rbc was down to 13. Now what's getting me worried is that the doc said there might be a kidney or other organ problem and that i'd need to see a specialist. Unfortunately I won't get to see this specialist for another month and im getting worried with what the problem might be and if waiting another month might make it worse. As far as symptoms go, I feel fine, or at least i'm not in any pain, previously or now.
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I'm hoping that someone can help to alleviate my severe stress level. For my annual checkup a week ago, I had a urinalysis done. This is the first time I've had this done, as I have a new doctor. The results showed that I was a 1+ for protein. Specific gravity was 1.015 and everything else was negative. There were no red blood cells, no white blood cells, no epithelial cells, no bacteria, no crystals, and most importantly no casts. The one very strange thing was a PH of 8.5, which seems way out of wack. I took my PH here at home, and it's around 6.0. I have read that a high PH can cause a false positive for the protein. So, my doctor said that he wanted me to come in to have it checked again. In the meantime, like an idiot, I went searching around on the internet about chronic kidney disease. So, I was freaking out for almost a day, and gave my second test the next morning. However, when I urinated in the morning, the water in the toilet foamed up like a mug root beer! Then I REALLY started freaking out, reading that foamy urine means protein in the urine. I do NOT remember seeing foam in my urine before this. I do have a long history of anxiety and panic issues. I do NOT have a history of chronic hypertension. If I'm at the doctor's office, or times when I'm anxious and panicky, my blood pressure can get above 140/90. Most of the time it is below 130/90, and I can get it to 120/80 or lower when I'm completely relaxed. My prior doctor almost always told me 120/80 when I was in for checkups. Also, back in November I had blood work done, and that showed that my creatinine level was on the high side of normal (1.19), but still in normal range, and I have no idea if I exercised the night before, ate meat, etc. More importantly, my blood albumin level was right in the middle of normal at 4.4, and total protein was also in normal range, and my BUN was 15. I have read that stress can cause there to be protein in the urine, and I'm REALLY hoping that is what is causing what I'm seeing, because everything else seems to look good in the tests, especially that there were no casts found. One further thing...there was ONE time since I had the second test that I had a long stream of urine, and there was NO foam in the water...completely clear. This was after I had spent some time with a friend and was fairly calm. However, every time since then...the last 2 days...foam every time. I'm to the point where I'm not even looking...just turning my head away. I'm hoping that someone else has had a similar experience and can tell me that there is a chance the foam can be caused by my stress level, and that I just need to calm down and relax since all the other tests look good. I have some hope because of no casts being found, and because of the prior blood work and the one time I urinated with no foam.
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I had a count of over 500 protein in urine than two weeks later 100, primary dr says not too concerned....
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So ive been experiencing kidney stones. I had done at 19 weeks passed one now at 27 weeks I have more. They also told me besides the blood in my urine I have too much protein. Not really sure what this means, they are checking for infections but im still waiting on results. I go in for my glucose test and an ultra sound on my kidneys on Thursday. Anyone else experience any of this?
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My Uncle's wife had a kidney transplant last year. With recent medical checks, the doctor found high level of the protein (albumin) in her urine. Do any of you have an idea to what kind of medications she should stick to?
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Over the past week i have been getting bad kidney pain and blood in urine. I went to see the doctor who gave me a pain jab and told me if the pain gets worse to go to the A&E, as i have a ileostomy she was not sure if that was causing the pain. Any way that night i never slept so in the morning we went to A&E was seen fast and given a x-ray and was told there may or may not be a stone also check urine and found blood and protein ? they then said i could leave as long as i was happy to go home with pain meds. So they gave me diclofenec and tamsulosin. It was not till i got home and read up on the drugs and saw they was slow releasing, now as i said i have a stoma and cant take these type of pills. What i want to know is do stones always show on x ray, what can cause the blood and protein and what other pills can i take to help.
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I've recently got back from the doctors i've had ongoing kidney infections with blood in my urine. i first suffered with this in march and was given 3 lots of antibiotics to try and get rid of the infection as each course they gave me didn't work the doctor was quite concerned as i was told there was alot of blood in my urine and was given stronger antibiotics but since then i suffer from every couple of days of a really bad stinging sensation which really hurts when i passing urine there seems to be a big amount of pressure also when i'm passing urine like there's something heavy there i've been given antibiotics a few weeks ago for this and its recently came back so went back to the doctors and was told there was blood in my urine once again and protein i was examined to see if i had any sort of discharge or sign of an infection in my clitrous and vulva but she was told it looks fine and no inflammation there but she's referred me to the hospital for a scan on my bladder and kidneys and as referred me to a specialist to look deeper into this and had blood taken for my liver my kidneys and my blood count could anyone help me by telling me what they think is wrong or what u think they looking for.. thankyou
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I saw my GP yesterday because I'm having very bad lower back pain mainly toward the right side and down my right thigh & leg. Its more painful when I want to pass water. My GP tested my urine and and she said I have protein in it. I am now waiting to hear the result of the test. She thinks it could be a kidney infection, but has not prescribed antibiotics. Or it could be something to do with a Cyst I have in my Left Kidney.
I am so worried about this because of my age (72 in May). I was also diagnosed a year ago with HIATUS HERNIA, GALLSTONES, DUODENITIS & DIVERTICULITIS.
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Are these two tests the same thing? Also, we are having trouble reading my mother's blood tests - and yes we have an upcoming appt but the office is very busy. She has a Protein/Creatinine ratio of 4.75. Her U creatinine is 60 and her protein is something like 13.
There isn't a normal range for the Protein/Creatinine ratio, though I know in the past it's been something like 0.83. Her blood creatinine was steady for her ... 1.9 and her GFR steady for her at 28. So...I don't get how the protein can be so much higher than it was before.
Every time I look up protein/creatinine ratio - I keep getting "albumin" results. Is this the same test?
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Is it me or is this stuff a waste of time?
I've had obout 20 lithotripsy's in 15 years of having continuous stones. They've never gotten my kidney completely empty of stones ever. I've had lithos, ureterscopy, PCNL. On meds but they can't seem to stop them from growing. I avoid alot of the things that cause stones or limit them. Got to have the 1 cup of coffee in the morning
On the day before litho, your suppose to eat light ( nothing that leaves residue in bowl) but they say you can have white bread or boiled chicken. (Why bother?) I usually only eat jello, gatorade, and just broth. Plus tons of water. The instructions say to drink the magnesium of citrate after dinner. Well to me dinner is after 6/7. But I thought this time I would take earlier since last time didn't start to move the bowels until i was in the hospital. Plus this stuff is awful- taste bad- even refrigeration like they suggest doesn't really help. Twice in past I threw it up.
So I took at 5 pm thinking it would work earlier. Nope. Nothing. Just stomach cramping and it finally started around 5 am after me getting up every hour during night. Still was working again while in hospital.
There has to be something better (tasting) and work faster. Plus less side effects. Or they should change instructions & say take a noon. Next litho (in 2-3 months) I'm taking a 1/2 day off day before and taking at noon. Maybe then can get a little sleep the night before procedure.
Sorry- felt like ranting as frustrated as its been two full days since litho and nothing passing yet. Plus I have a bad back (2 surgeries) which makes it hard to do the exercises where you drink 2 cups water, wait 30 minutes, then elevate kidney @ 45 degrees and stay like that for 30 minutes to try and get the pieces to move.
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Okay, so a little over 4 months ago, I donated my left kidney. For the past month, I've been having a slight pressure (not quite pain) in my right lower back area, where my one kidney is. I just had a checkup a few days ago with urine and blood tests, and I have seen the results. There is no indication that anything is wrong though. Maybe they missed something? I forgot to mention this to the kidney doctor during my appointment though.
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currently my creatine 205.
can take enalapril or losartan? will it affect or worsen kidney function.
well, i have been taking enalapril since 2008 . my creatinine was hopping around 150-180 in these 7 years till 2015.
However, due to chronic diarrhea , vomiting. acute renal failure. creatinine shoot up to 400 in Jan and urine infection in march.
creatinine now hopping around 200-250.
doctor stop my enalapril and replace with amlodipine 5mg
once i stop the enalapril , my urine protein is back. from march 0.17g to 0.61g. i am worried.
i didn't have any urine protein over those few years since 2009 to 2015. i guess this is the reason which i can keep well in my condition with creatinine hopping around 150-190.
i am worried that the urine protein my cause my kidney worsen and dialysis may starts soon.
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3 weeks ago, i was admitted in hospital. over my 2 weeks staying in hospital, doctor didn't do anything, didn't on drip . just give me injection of Hydroxychloroquine.and i was diagnosed with urine infection. so creatinine able to goes up from 160-210. but down again to 155.
however, last few days, my creatinine shoot up to 240. such a shocked to me. as i didn expect there is so much shoot in just few weeks time.
doctor has been stop my enalapril, which i used to protect kidney and keep my urine protein negative.
however, there is 1+ urine protein in my urine test. my blood pressure used to below 130/80. now sometime, it can shoot up to 150/95 if i do some physical activity.
i have been worried for my condition. This year, i was admitted twice. Jan admitted due to diarrhea and dehydration. delay the admission. so creatinine shoot up to 400++, nearly need dialysis. however, after drip. then able to drop to 150++
then during march usual check up. my creatinine also shoot up to 240. however, after the hospital stay, it manage to down back to 150++
i wonder is it because i started to work and sometime i worked quite late. then my creatinine shoot up so much?
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I have had blood in my urine on and off for 2 years. I have chronic kidney discomfort, have been told that I have 3 cysts on my kidney and one on my liver.
I develop low grade fevers from time to time, and seem to always have UTI's. I once had a large kidney stone.. Monday I had a headache so bad I went to the dr she told me it was a migraine. As a precaution she ordered blood work. Can someone please help me understand these values. eGF non African American >59 Creatinine 0.73.
1.8x1.8x1.7 cm left parapelvi lesion which appears to have a thin septation which is traversing blood vessel. Precontrast density of the cystic portion was 7 hounsfield units and postcontrast density of the cystic portion was 4 hounsfield units. Precontrast density of the septations was 14 Hounsfield units and post contrast CT density of the septation was 37 hounsfield units.
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Does anyone have problem with holding their urine.? My sister can't make it to the bathroom sometimes, and she leaks. Is that from kidney, or incontinence? She is 81, has had 2 bladder lifts. She is miserable. Also, she gets up 2-3 times at night to pee.
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