Thyroid :: Synthroid To Nature-throid, Crashed In 6 Weeks
Jun 2, 2013
I had RAI treatment for Graves 15 years ago. I have only been on Synthroid since. I have ranged form 125 mcg to 200 mcg. I never felt completely well. None of the endos (I have seen them all) in town would prescribe NDT. In November of 2012 I found a wonderful OB/GYN that has a wellness practice. He is very into integrative medicine. Finally, I found someone that will prescribe NDT.
These are my labs while on 175-200 mcg (alternating) of Synthroid.
11-15-2012
Taking 175 200 mcg Synthroid during these test. Not feeling well, fatigued, hair falling out. Switched to 2 grains of Nature Throid after these tests......
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Had my thyroid removed 2001 and was on Synthroid for 11 years. Felt awful the entire time, was always very tired, gained lots of weight, dry skin and hair, the whole bunch of symptoms so finally I dug my heels in and did not take anything for 3 months. Very dangerous but was tired of being so confused could not find my way home when I was a block from home. So the doctor put me on Armour and then I switched doctors and the new one put me on Nature-throid. I'm still very tired and sleep a lot, my neck hurts where the thyroid was removed 11 years ago, drainage from that area. Any suggestions for a different med that actually works without exacerbating my symptoms?
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i was hypo on 1 grain nature throid with a tsh of 5...lot of pains too on 1.5 grains i was still having many aches and pains at 6 weeks and hair still falling out....and at 2 grains 6 weeks later i was having severe heart paps so i knew i was hyper or it just not suited for me.....hence i felt bad at 1.5 grains and funny at 2 grains.....
so i went back to 1.5 grain and still had heart pap and felt bad so after a week of trying a grain every other day....
i gave up and went back to 100mcg of synthroid and heart paps stopped.....my hair loss was less the week i started on synthroid....which shocked me....alot less.....
but today i did have some pulling feeling in my neck and a head twitch is what i call it...those symptoms that are not constant but fleeting when the thyroid is changing
...and wondered has anyone else went from nature throid back to synthroid....
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I recently just changed my thyroid medication, I have beensynthroid for since i was at age 5 when my body ravished my thyroid, I have been at 137 mg on synthroid, but still had a level of 7 on TSH, t3 and t4 were normal, but i harvest felt good on synthroyid very foggy minded. Doctor said i could go on nature, but i have taken it for two days and the first day I felt great. Quality of life becoming amazing in one day, but day 2 and woke up very tired and lerthagic and shortness of breath, is this normal for switching over to a new medication?
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My natural doctor thinks that switching me from synthroid to nature throid will help my T3 levels come up. My T4 is fine but somewhere along the line my body is not converting the T4 into enough T3. Has anybody ever experienced the switch? I am open to the good, bad and ugly.
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I finally saw a naturopathic physician and she agreed that TSH levels over 4 were not good. So, she put me on a half tab of Nature throid to start. I see her again in a week.
This is my first time on meds and I'm just wondering what I should be looking for as far as results? If they work, is it like coming out of a fog or something? How long does it take to start to notice the effects?
I've been this way for as long as I can remember, so suddenly having energy or feeling perky or something like that would be really strange for me. I'm not expecting a miracle, but I can't say I'm not hoping for one.
I also have high blood sugar, so I'm supposed to cut things like beer and sugar, etc. out of my diet. She also thinks I have a dairy allergy, so I have to cut that out for a week to see how it goes. I note that Nature throid has lactose in it though... Weird.
Anyway, I'm just looking for some advice or guidance through the process.
She's a great doc and, I have to say, that actually having someone listen to my symptoms and BELIEVE me was dang near one of the best experiences of my life. I got all choked up when I left!
Oh, and meanwhile, I still haven't even received a call from my PCP's office regarding the blood tests I took over 3 weeks ago. Nice.
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I've just been diagnosed with Hashimoto, and been doing quite some research. My MD and I decided on Nature-Throid. The lowest dose possible 16,25mg. But I'm terrified of taking it, cause I keep reading about heart related side effects. I must admit that I suffer from anxiety, which doesn't help any. I was wondering if at that low of a dose major side effects are likely? Any experience with Nature-Throid?
My thyroid levels are:
TSH: 3.4
T4: 1.31
T3: 3.5
TPO: 170
TPO: 170
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Well, after a year and a half on Erfa Thyroid, I had to switch back to Synthroid because the heart pounding at night on the Erfa just kept getting worse and worse.
Of course, with the Synthroid I'm now back to having severe foot cramps all night; by that I mean that my foot twists around on the ankle and I have to stand up and push my foot down to get it to go back into position. Sometimes it's both feet at once. Try sleeping with that going on!
Not sure which side effect is worse, and I feel as though I can't win, since neither medication allows me to sleep.
My doctor doesn't believe that switching back to Synthroid would result in foot cramps and won't offer any help. When I was on Synthroid previously my old GP game me quinine sulphate, which keep the cramps down to once or twice a week, but this one won't prescribe it.
Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution? I take lots of calcium, magnesium, Vitamin D, and B vitamins, so I should be okay on that score.
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Meds recently changed from armour to these. Am I supposed to take them both first thing in am, or take cytomel later?
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Overall, I am doing MUCH better - still have tweaking to do but this has by far been the best year for me since getting diagnosed. Things like my cycle becoming regular again, to even some weight loss (over the summer and it came back but it was nice to see my body responding for once...hopeful that once I am in my new job, my stress will be much better and Ill have time to be active again but I digress).
I had previously been on Armour and spent over 2 years never really feeling better (my body didn't tolerate it at all it seemed), so I switched to synthroid plus cytomel I had some side affects so switched again to tirosint plus cytomel.
That was when I noticed I was making progress - except for TWO annoying side affects. Zombie head that never went away over 8 months (even tried taking it at night instead which helped but getting out of bed in the morning was an act of god) and acne. Seriously, I feel like I'm going through puberty all over again. I should note, that I think the progress was due to finally increasing meds (anytime i increased armour I would be in pain so I avoided it)
I finally made a switch back to Natural Thyroid - I take the Acela NP thyroid which I tolerate much better than Armour. The good side effects have stayed and my zombie head is gone. My skin is a BIT better but not much.
Has anyone experienced this? I have read stories of people with Hashi's having skin issues due to low thyroid but that was never my problem. I have to say that my skin was maybe my one source of pride (even when my hair was falling out, i gained weight, my skin stayed clear and smooth).
Before I clearly wasn't on enough thyroid. I was on 1.5 grains Armour before switching to about 118 synthetic (it changed a few times but it was around that). When I switched to NO Thyroid (no more cytomel),I was one 2.5 grains and have now worked my way up to 3.5 grains. Increasing to 3.5 actually didn't make me worse skin wise - it was a bit better than it was on 2.5 so I can't quite figure out what the deal is.
Just looking to hear if anyone else has experience this, what they did and if it eventually went away? Would trying another version of NDT be worth a shot you think?
I am THISCLOSE to looking into accutane. I need help! I have tried every skin care product under the sun. It seems to be an internal problem and not a result of what I am putting on my face.
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2 1/2 years ago my hypothyroid meds (90 mcg synthroid) started to make me feel extremely hyper, but my blood tests came back looking good. I was finally diagnosed as having Adrenal Fatigue (after seeing 13 doctors and 18 months later) and was taken off my thyroid meds totally for a about 6+ months to heal my adrenals.
My saliva test says my adrenals are much better (still not 100%). I tried to then go on Armour, but continued with anxiety, neck pain, headache all day on right side, depression…the usual.
I am now chopping up the meds and take small doses of 12.5 Synthroid and 1.25 Cytomel twice a day - morning and afternoon - for about 3 weeks but I still feel hyper…and tired and anxious, depressed. If I take more T3 I start to get really anxious.
I went on the above combination after I first tried just Cytomel alone at 1.25 and went through the roof after about 3 days, so I stopped.
We are trying the above combination thinking the Armour we tried earlier was the wrong ratio of T4/T3 (75/25%). According an online chart, my current med routine of synthroid/cytomel = a ratio of 90/10%.
I am still feeling extremely tired, anxious, no appetite, no energy, dizzy, feel like I'm not here, and depressed. Was considering changing the T4/T3 ratio to perhaps 50/50%. Anyone ever try this?
NOTE--best week ever: A few months ago, we tried switching from 15 Armour only to 12 Synthroid only for 1 week. Just to try something different. After 1 week of no progress we switched back to about 7.5 Armour for a few days--then upping to 15. And WOW, I had the GREATEST week in the last 2 years ever, then it started to decline again the next week while keeping Armour at about 15.
I was also off Gluten for 3 months with no noticeable improvements.
I keep thinking this has to have something to do with my Adrenals. As I said my saliva test came back much better - the doctor said I was 80% back to normal. I'm thinking that's not close enough?? I need to be 90% before I can tolerate the meds?? 95%?? I don't know!!
Has anyone had experience with this? Were you eventually able to take your thyroid meds again? How were you able to do it?
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Is it normal to retain water while on Synthroid? I never experienced water retention before I began my Synthroid. Now that I am on Synthroid, I am retaining water pretty badly. I often wake up with swollen fingers and I tend to weigh 5 or 6 pounds more in the morning than I do in the evening. This is very out of character for me. Anything I can do to help alleviate this issue?
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I have been recently changed from Cymbalta to generic duloxetine. Whilst on Cymbalta, I was able to cut down from 120 mgs daily to 90 mgs daily.
Now I have had to go back to 120 mgs as I have a terrible depressive crash very close to 3 pm every day. I have always taken my full dose in one dose in the morning. Now I am splitting it to avoid the 3 pm crash. I asked my psychiatrist for Cymbalta specifically as in the US it is prescribed for fibromyalgia which I also have. I had seemed to be improving on that front too and was hoping to get back to part time work but I have been more or less bedridden for the last two weeks. Anybody else had problems with the switch over?
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I have been having low free T4 (9 pmol/L), but normal although on the lower end TSH (1.69 mIU/L).
My doctor has put me on 75mg/day synthroid, because his diagnostic is hypothyroidism. However, I understand that hypothyroidism is normally associated with low T4, but high TSH.
Based on what I have read, it seems that a low T4 associated with a normal TSH may be linked to issues with the pituitary gland (and not the thyroid) or issues with binding agents.
Is hypothyroidism and the use of synthroid indicated in my case?
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I was recently switched to the name brand of Synthroid after taking the generic for 20 + years. I really didn't notice any side effects from the generic but since switching to the name brand I have begun having hot flashes and night sweats (I'm WAY past menopause) and I feel anxious, moody, my foot is constantly moving when I'm sitting and recently I noticed I'm clenching my teeth. Has anyone had this experience when going from the generic to the name brand?
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I have been diagnosed with Hashimoto. Everywhere I read it is controlled with Armour or some kind of thyroid medicine. I have tried Armour and Synthroid and Levothyroxine and have had no change in my leves. One is suppose to be a 4 and mine is a 7 and one is suppose to be less than 9 and mine is greater than 900.
What happens when it us uncontrollable with Medicine?
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I now have a 4.1 ascending aortic aneurysm. Begin taking synthroid in 2007 after stage 4. Total thyroidectomy. Could there be a connection? My endo thinks I am loco.
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Had a thyroidectomy in the middle 90s, and was put on synthroid. Due to insurance changes I haven't been able to get meds for almost 2yrs now. Is my health in danger ?
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I had an ultrasound today and it says that there is "a homogeneous appearance to the echotexture of the thyroid gland. Bilateral thyroid nodules are observed. There is evidence of a complex cystic and solid lower pole right thyroid nodule measuring 1.8 x 1.0 x 0.9 cm. Within the left thyroid lobe there is evidence of a hypoechoic midpole left thyroid nodule measuring 0.6 x 0.4 x 0.7 cm. Bilateral thyroid nodules. Dominant nodule is a complex cystic and solid lower pole right thyroid nodule measuring up to 1.8 cm. what does this mean?
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I have 3 thyroid nodules and 1 cyst. I have been advised to have a thyroidectomy. I do not want to go this route yet and am searching for some natural remedies. I have heard of using iodine but to be careful do to the fact that that might enlarge the nodules. I recently found out that I am very iodine deficient from a lab result. I have heard of iodine trapping, whereby the iodine taken in when their is a severe deficiency is immediately 'trapped' and held in the gland in order to preserve some iodine for the use of the thyroid. I would like to proceed with caution and try the iodine therapy.
Does anyone on this board have any experience with successfully dissolving or at least reducing the nodules/cysts?
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It wasn't long after I moved to an area within 10 miles of a nuclear power plant that I was diagnosed with an enlarged thyroid with nodules. And after a surgery I had, I became extremely depressed and I still am, this was three years ago. Also a feeling of not being myself.
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