Prostate :: Why Biopsy? When We Have MRI And PSA
Dec 3, 2014
Having agonised about what to do for over a year now I have finally decided. Nothing. Well, not quite nothing but what is termed ‘watchful waiting’. My PSA has steadily increased over the past two years from 5.4 to 7.4 and in September my GP referred me to a urologist. The urologist, who arrived very late to the surgery, did a quick DRE then said that he would refer me for a biopsy. I wanted to discuss the options, including MRI as I didn’t want to undergo an invasive procedure without proper discussion. Also, I had read that in a test conducted on 223 biopsy-naïve men that biopsy was no better at detecting PCa than MRI. The link to the study is here - [URL....]
We found that mpMRI/MRGB reduces the detection of low-risk PCa and reduces the number of men requiring biopsy while improving the overall rate of detection of intermediate/high-risk PCa.
Unsure how to proceed I asked my GP to refer me to a private urologist with the hope of being able to discuss the alternatives.
In the meantime I did some extensive research and discovered two further studies which concluded that for low grade PCa (PSA<10) the outcome for watchful waiting was no worse in terms of morbidity that invasive treatment and the outcome in terms of quality of life was much better. Both studies were conducted over at least 10 years by reputable agencies. One, conducted by the New England Journal of medicine is here [URL] ... . The other can be found by searching 'PIVOT'. Also, a number of well-known doctors have published articles in favour of doing nothing – Dr Mark Porter in The Times and Dr Sarah Jarvis in this very website, not to mention other articles in The Daily Mail, Telegraph and Independent. I got to thinking that if invasive treatments did not improve my outcome, what was the point of a biopsy?
I finally got to see a private urologist who discussed the options and, although he was marginally in favour of a biopsy, did not object to my proposal. So now I am going to monitor my PSA and I will reassess the situation if/when my PSA goes into double digits. I have since gone on a no-dairy and low red meat diet and my latest PSA (Dec14) was down marginally to 7.2 – still high but moving in the right direction. I appreciate that this course of (in)action is not for everyone and not knowing is frustrating at times, but for me at least, I feel it is the best current option.
I am 56 years of age and my father, who is still very well had an RP for PCa about 15 years ago. All DREs have reported ‘enlarged but benign-feeling’.
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I have some gel to apply 30 mins before the procedure but you are supposed to cover the area (once the gel has been applied) with a plastic dressing. I don't have such a thing and it will move around anyway .... Would be great to hear from anyone who has any tips! I thought of putting cling film around a normal dressing and holding it there with my pants on?
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I had this benign smooth small-ish bump on my nose for around two years, then around october time last year my nose got very dry and it kind of scraped/came off. It bled a little but it didn't seem to be full of blood, maybe just a clear fluid. It never bothered me up until it came off. I was really happy because i thought it had gone. But then it started to come back. it came back even WORSE! it got very red, formed an uneven texture and still hasn't disappeared and we are in March. I have been to a doctor, who prescribed me acne medication, which just irritated it. Then i visited a dermatologist who told me i could have a shave biopsy. Its not cancerous which is good. But i am very very self concious about it. It is not a raised red , uneven bump on my nose. If you apply pressure it will stay down for 5 seconds until it comes back again.
I have been weighing up whether i want to go ahead and have a shave biopsy, i am worried about it scarring badly. It isn't very big, it is about 4mm/5mm, but it still is very obvious ( especially to me ). How long do shave biopsies take to heal? could it come back after the biopsy? and how long after the shave biopsy would i have to wait before wearing makeup?
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I'm going to have a biopsy done in few weeks time. I was advised by the dermatologist to get some metope (sp?) gel and apply it 1/2 hour before the procedure. However, I look at the instructions and you have to put an air tight covering over the area once you've applied the gel - something like cling film I think. But how will that work on my fanjo?
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I am a 21 year old female college student. About a month and a half ago, I noticed a large lump in my throat that moved up and down when I swallowed. Slightly concerned, I made an appointment at my university health center, where they drew blood and my thyroid levels came back normal (I have no hyper or hypothyroid symptoms anyway.) After visiting my primary doctor, I had an ultrasound done that showed a 2.5cm nodule on my isthmus (midline thyroid) with 2 tiny (mm sized) on either side which aren't palpable or visible and I didn't realize I had. The report also said there is increased vascularity, or blood flow, to the area which my endo said could be cancerous or it could just be because the nodule is large with extra blood flow to the area. I have my biopsy scheduled for next week to determine what type of nodule the 2.5 cm one is (benign or malignant.)
To be honest, I'm scared of the results. I have always been healthy other than the occasional common cold, so this is something that really took me by surprise.
For those who are going through or have gone through this, what was your experience with the fine needle biopsy like? If your nodule was benign, did you still get it removed just in case? I just turned 21 with a lot of life plans ahead of me and I am scared that due to its increased size, it could be cancer.
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My boy, 6 years old, has one supraclavicular lymph node, size 0.5 cm. Is it normal? Should i get it biopsied?
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Has anyone else been put to sleep for their biopsy? Saw gyno for first time and whilst they said some fusing was present she couldn't say LS for sure as the steroids would be masking all other conditions . She's referred me for urgent biopsy under general so she can do smear too ( last doc who tried couldn't do it ) should I be worried or is this quite normal.
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If you have your biopsy come back with suspicious or pre-cancerous cells, should I have a mastectomy?
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Has anyone here had a vulva biopsy ?
If so, how was the healing process? and did it leave a scar?
I got one last week, its a hole, Gyn didnt put stitches since stitches make you itchy ( and thats the main reason why i got the biopsy done due to Itching)
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I now have a date for a vulval biopsy as the specialist thinks it may be LS. There is a white patch there - which amazed me because two GPs told me that there were no white patches.
Anyway I need to have this biopsy done mid July - my GP told me that if it does show LS then in all likelihood they would want to remove the white patch (vulval surgery scares me to bits!). He said the steroid creams are not much good and they prefer to take the bit away in the hope that it will remove the risk of cancer developing. I am left wondering a) how painful is that op, has anyone had it done? It will be under a local anaesthetic I think. and b) would LS come back and I need to have it all done again?
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Just had a thyroid ultra done..showed a 9.7x7x7 cm nodule adjacent to the left carotid artery (I have lots of cysts which have already been biopsied)..after much discussion we did try to do biopsy, but because I have a short neck, and they were unable to tip my head back enough to do the biopsy without hitting the artery, I was sent home with instructions that I should have another ultra in 6 months..should I be worried, they said its small, but if we can't biopsy it, whats next..I'm off to see my primary doc today..they also asked if I had Hashi's, maybe I should be put on meds to try and shrink the nodule?
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So after my discordant biopsy that showed only benign fibrocystic changes, surgeon scheduled me for a lumpectomy! I have never been more scared or confused, and she seemed to dodge all my questions about why I need a lumpectomy. So my question is to the people on this board- what is your lumpectomy experience was and why you need it also, is lumpectomy same as excisional biopsy. I read different things on the internet , and frankly it all doesn't make sense to me.
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After initially being diagnosed with stage 4 terminal bladder cancer and told I only had weeks to live, plus there was nothing they could do for me, I became a pro-active patient (doctors advise, I decide). All that was nearly 7 years ago.
I have been on Tamsulosin on and off (definitely on in the last year) to help peeing.
In the last year, my blood pressure has risen to dangerous levels. Hypertension pills have helped somewhat, and by experimenting I've got to a good combination with little swelling and other side-effects. But then my remaining kidney started failing.
Investigating this a couple of weeks ago, it was found that my retention (no-one mentioned PVR) had worsened from an earlier 'normal' of 500-600mL to 1.2L and this was thought to have caused the kidney problems.
I'm now catheterised for 4 weeks (half-way through now), and both my blood pressure and kidney function tests are showing an improvement.
The last thing the urologist said was that they'd probably be considering prostate shaving. Hence my coming to this forum and reading up on the alternatives (Urolift sounds an attractive option if I'm suitable). Whilst I understand that TURP is both the gold-standard and generally OK, the stories here have underlined the serious risk of bad side-effects. So I'll see if I'm eligible for some of the alternatives (not just Urolift, but PAE and WHY).
I'll update when I've seen the urologist next.
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I am 59 years young, and I have IBS and prostate cancer. I will be starting my prostate cancer treatments the last week of October and my doctor prescribed me Viagra that I am supposed to take beginning the week before my treatment begins. I don't have a lot of money (the treatment is taking every bit of my HSA) and he told me there were places I could buy it and save some money, as I'm going to be working a lot less during the treatments. Also, I am wondering if anyone has taken Viagra and if it affected your IBS at all?
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I am looking for herbs that can cure prostatitis. Have any of you found a good remedy for this? I am not interested in homeopathy as such, as I had bad experienced with that in the past, but just plain herbs would be great. If anyone can post their information up here, that would be so useful!
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It has brought so many problems.
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I suffer from prostatitis. I am on therapy now, but my doctor didn’t give me any instructions on what I should avoid drinking or eating. Anyway, my main concern is coffee. Can I drink coffee if I suffer from prostatitis?
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I recently Started smoking Meth, unfortunately, Since then i've noticed a few things and have done some research, and was curious does/can smoking dope affect a male's prostate?
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My husband is 46 and has had blood in his semen a number of times. He's visited his GP and had a rectal examination and blood tests, which I'm assuming to be PSA? He's due to go back to the GP for his results. I'm planning on going with him but would appreciate any pointers really, as to what questions we should definitely ask. I've read that the PSA results aren't always a reliable indicator so, are there any other investigations we should press for? To be honest, I think i've 'over- googled'
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I just had a cystoscopy and it seems like I am headed for a TURP. My local urologist seems quite competent but I am wondering if I would do better with a large medical center perhaps equipped with robotic surgery like Da Vinci.
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JUst wanted to share my experience with my turp surgery. I'm 45yrs old, too young some say for me to having prostate issues but I put it down to my father side of the family (my father and uncles all currently suffer from enlarged prostates)
For the last couple of years been suffering from weak urine stream, having a full night sleep and waking up in the morning with the urge to go wee just to wee a small trickle. I also suffered from time to time having blood in the urine.
Went to see the Urologist, he did some testing, test on the strength on my urine flow (very weak the doc said) he put a camera up my penis to see inside and we could see clearly that my prostate was enlarge and was putting pressure on my bladder which probably explained why sometimes I could see blood on my urine. I have a benign enlarged prostate, no cancer worries which is good.
While I decided if I wanted to have surgery, doctor put me on Avodart. It did help but I wasn't sure if I wanted to take antibiotics for the rest of my life. Avodart temporary reduces the size of the prostate but if you stop taking it, you will still have the same problem again and it will only get worse.
Decided to have the surgery, I had it three weeks ago. spinal block, stayed in hospital one full day with a catheter inserted. Catheter was removed the following day in the morning, had to urine a few times into a container, followed by a scan machine pressed to my belly to see how much urine was left in the bladder. Passed the test and was allowed to go home that day at midday.
I can see the immediate benefit of the surgery where my urine stream is very strong. When I get up in the morning with a full bladder, no more urine trickle, just a strong urine flow. On the other side, I'm still suffering from post surgery effects, for example, frequent urges to go to the toilet and pee ( I probably go every 40 to 60 minutes) blood on the urine and pain (burning/stinging) every time I have to take a piss. The doctor says is normal for this symptoms to happen and it will take weeks before everything is back to normal. how long? it depends on the individual. I can get an erection, it feels a bit different and I will suffer from retro ejaculation ( I was warned about this)
Anyone that had Turp done, how long it took until you were pain free? (no blood and pain) Did you take any medicine to stop the pain or the bleeding?
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