Herpes :: HSV2 Symptoms But Blood Test Negative
May 30, 2014
I'm pretty sure I have HSV 2 (herpes) but I never got a culture, never had noticeable recurrent outbreaks, and have had a negative IgG blood test so I'm a little confused and want to know others opinions.
Almost exactly 2 weeks after unprotected intercourse I got:-
-3 hard red bumps/sores in a row in my pubic hair region (about the size of a pencil eraser)
-A few days later: extremely itchy vaginal area and thick, yellowish smelly discharge which lasted a couple days
-Possible "flat" sores on labia minora area (white circular discoloration, did NOT look like typical herpes sore clusters)
-The red sores on my pubic area seemed to crust over/come off (became flat, smooth, and whitish) after about a week then went away. I never noticed any fluid in them or oozing.
I never experienced any swollen lymph nodes, flu-like symptoms, or clusters of white pimple-like sores. I have never noticed any re-current outbreaks. I have no history of HSV 1.
Two years after possible initial outbreak I finally got a blood test: HSV 1 & 2-Specific Ab, IgG; Venipuncture
HSV 1 IgG: <0.91 Negative
HSV 2 IgG: <0.91 Negative
(index: 0.00-0.90, Equivocal .91-1.09)
I know there are lots of cases of people not producing antibodies, so I'm wondering if it's worth getting a Western Blot? Do you think the only explanation for my symptoms is herpes?
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I had an encounter with a CSW Feb 2015 that involved unprotected oral (stupid I know) but protect vaginal sex. The next day I had a strong itch on my groin and the following day (2 days after encounter) I had a blister cluster of about 6-8 blisters in that area. The blisters went away without any scabbing within 1 or 2 days and never reappeared. I have had a almost near constant itch/tingling in my crotch in the same area ever since.
I had assumed this was a HSV-1/2 outbreak from what I had read, and I was unable to visit a clinic at the time. 13 months later, I get the IgG test and my results are:
HSV1 <0.1 negative
HSV2 <0.1 negative
While initially relieved, I'm worried that this <0.1 on both tests could possibly be a mis-test? I have seen many other tests here come up with number registering (example 0.27 or 0.5). Should I just retest or go for a Western Blot to settle this?
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I'll get straight to the point. Yesterday received results that I tested positive for HSV2, and its definitive being a 5.0 Igg. However. I have not had genital sex with anyone except my significant other. I do frequent strip clubs, and there has been occasion where as recently as a month and a half ago, my mouth came in contact with a strippers *** and clitoris. There was no bump or lesion, and from everything I've read, this is not an efficient way of transmitting HSV 2. My doctor has no answer for how this happened and I have had no physical manifestations of any type do viral infection. We are currently retesting to see if there is any kind of mistake, but as of now feeling pretty hopeless. Can anyone shed some light? The test I had was the Herpeselect Test.
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i had my period last june 9 2014, then on june 27 and 28 i had a light spotting.den, i felt something's wrong with me..there's a feeling or slight symptoms of a pregnant woman..a boobs are tender to touch and painful..my body feel hot like i was having a light fever..than july 1 i take a pregnancy test and shows positive but faint line.. then, july 2 to 8 i got again spotting.. and goes away.. july 14 i took another pregnancy test shows again positive faint line.. i went to my ob july 18 just to know her what's happening on me. i had that light spotting again..and in transvaginal ultrasound shows that there was a thickening of the lining tells me that i am positive. 5 to 6 weeks, but i have a cyst considered benign.nothing to worry about she said. she gave me medicine duphaston good for 10 days, and i'm going to come back for a follow up appt. on july 28. again the spotting continues sometimes light bleeding, sometimes full on my liners. another medicine duphaston gud for 5 days she gave me because on the ultrasound she saw only thickening of the linings and the baby wasn't developing. then, this day august 1 i came back for the final appt, i took a blood test and shows negative. transvaginal ultrasound shows again the lining on my ovary.
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MY Story started 2 years ago . I met a wonderful girl and we had both vaginal and anal sex. It wasnt until I finished we realized the condom has broken . After we found out she started crying and told me I needed to get checked . I ran away from relationships and sex life for 2 years because of fear because every 3 weeks or so it seemed I had another HIV symptom. Well I met an amazing girl got a test done professionally oraquick. Came back negative still scared but figured I tested welllll after the window period can I trust this can I live my life ?.is therw anything else it could be
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I never been sexually active in my life (Never had sex before) except THESE BIGGEST SINES I EVER MADE in my life, I know I'm dumb and stupid, I'm too scared I need some conforte here please:
First time in my life I had sex (unprotected) was 8 months ago (August) with an escort girl. Second exposure was 5 months ago (December), I met a girl offered me massage she was a transsexual. she rubbed her penis on my back and anus (I think with no condom) cuz she ejaculated on my anus and back. (No penetration) Third time with the same transsexual in March with condom but also (no penetration).
I saw the ad for (Oraquick in Home Oral swab) on TV and the internet so I decide to get tested. I had tested for other stds as well Syphilis, Gonorrhea, and Chlamydia they were all negative. I tested for HIV (Oraquick in Home Oral swab) up to 8 months after First Exposure. I tested for HIV (Oraquick in Home Oral swab) and 5 months after Second Exposure.
I followed the instructions, and tested after 3 months exposures "ALL NEGATIVE".... I'm not gonna argue with you about my persistent symptoms (Muscle and joint aches, my both knees are red and aching my legs and some twitching and stabbing pain arms, neck and shoulder.) that's starts 5 months after the first exposure and still occurring till now they come and go. I know you don't discuss symptoms here.
1) What are my risk assessments regarding my exposures described above?
2) Do I still Need to test or get a different type of testing?
3) Are my persistent symptoms related to HIV?
4) Are my oraquick tests I took reliable and accurate???
5) Am I conclusively Negative do Not have HIV?
6) Can I MOVE ON with my life with 100% no worries?
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I had unprotected sex with a girl who had no obvious symptoms of herpes. She also claims she doesn't have it, which doesn't mean anything since she's never been tested. This happened about 2 months ago. I never developed any symptoms until maybe 5 weeks after the exposure. I started getting slight balanitis (redness around the ring on the head of my penis). About a week and a half or so later I developed a small bump on the base of my shaft, I poked and prodded at it and it went away within the same day. This bump was accompanied by pain in my right leg. I remember poking at it then going to the clinic to get it checked and when I presented my unit, it was so small that I couldn't find it, but I eventually did (it was maybe 1/4 the size it was originally). Anyways, the next day I developed a small bump on the underside of my shaft that was just plain red. I poked at it and pinched it to see if it would pop but it didn't. It scabbed because I made it bleed (I think, I'm not 100%). I then got ANOTHER bump the next day on the left side of my shaft that when I popped it white pus came out (so i believe it was just a pimple, this has happened before but its insanely rare for me to get a whitehead on my penis). Once that was gone about 2 days later I got another bump at the same location as the pimple which when I popped it, clear liquid came out with a little bit of white, but mostly completely clear liquid. I had weird feelings on my penis for about 3 weeks while this was happening also, like stabbing pains and twitching. Fast forward about another week and another bump pops up where the pimple was, this time I am smarter and decide to watch it without popping it. It shrinks to nothing in maybe 2 days. I should mention none of the bumps have ever itched, tingled, hurt (not even the slightest) or scabbed (maybe because I popped them all), except for the one where I believe only scabbed due to the pinching. All of this happened in the span of 4 weeks, about 4.5 -5 weeks after the possible exposure. I had a herpes IGG at 7.5 weeks which came back negative. I should also mention that I have very dry skin on my penis, which I've now been moisturizing. I also do still have slight balanitis, it was never itched or hurt and is only represented as redness on the rim of my penis. And not matter what, I'm going to get another IGG test at 13 weeks (I would do 12 weeks but I'm insanely busy that week with multiple midterms).
My questions are:
1) Is an IGG reliable at this time given my symptoms?
2) Do these symptoms sound like Herpes? I just don't know what else it could be.
3) Wouldn't the antibodies in my blood be detectable since I had been having symptoms for over 3 weeks before I got tested?
4) If I'm negative at 13 weeks, does that rule out herpes as the cause 100%?
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So back in October, I had a horrific and painful outbreak of herpes, both near my genital area and my mouth area. I was diagnosed with HPV-1, but not HPV-2 (swab test). I recently got into a relationship and I've told my boyfriend what I had and we had to be careful. Just recently, I finished school and from the stress, I was developing mouth sores, and now all of a sudden, I noticed one bump on the outer area of my vagina (I don't know the actual terminology, but it's on the "hairy" part) that popped up yesterday, thinking it was an ingrown hair because I shaved, but now it's looking more like a blister than anything. It hasn't spread yet and I'm hoping it doesn't. My discharge is a bit more creamy than usual, but there's no burning while urinating or pain near the vagina. It seems normal, just not the bump. The mouth ulcers are nearly gone and I haven't been sick and I don't start my period for another 2 weeks. Last time him and I had sex was this past Sunday and we used protection. My question is, if I'm diagnosed with HPV-1, why am I developing herpes in the genitalia region? Isn't it only supposed to be on the mouth?
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I was recently found to have genital herpes in my vaginal and anal region. There are only two possible people i could have got it from, being my boyfriend and the guy before. My boyfriend has never had an outbreak, but we now know it can be transmitted even when undetected, and he's likely the transmitter. I would like to know if he is infected, so we can both prevent it spreading to him, and inform the other person that he needs to be tested.
So my questions are, how accurate is a blood test for hsv? And in what price range does the test cost to have done? Are there any other tests that don't require a person to have out breaks?
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I recently decided to get a blood test done for HSV 1 and 2. No typical symptoms, but I was reading that some people never have any symptoms, so I wanted to get checked out. I have had about 10 total sexual partners, and only one that I really gave oral sex to. A few women I just kissed a bit down there, but I have always used a condom. I have noticed a slightly red fordyce on my scrotum, and some small zits around my mouth. I also take coconut oil as a general health supplement, one tablespoon a day and use it on my face before bed. I know that it can inhibit viruses including herpes, but I was wondering if it would affect a PCR or an Antibody test for the virus? I expect labs back Monday, and hopefully it comes back negative, if so I will still have to get retested in a few months since I have had recent partners.
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Hello! I was recently back in February diagnosed with hpv. I had full blood work done and I have no other diseases or infections. I've also not had sex since before the testing. I recently noticed I have two painful blisters, one on the inside of my labia and the other on the other lip. I shave and I've had ingrown hairs but these definitely don't feel the same. They are super uncomfortable. I'm unable to go to the doctor until The end of the week and wanted to see if anyone knew what they might be? And any temporary ideas for pain relief? Over the counters pain killers do nothing. Also, I have extremely bad allergies to pollen and with the pollen, came these blisters, so I am not sure if they are related. I've added pictures below. Thanks for the help.
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went for std checks .I'm married but work away from home and I have been doubtful even though my relationship with my husband is fine . I guess I can't trust men especially that I spend long times away for work . pcr blood test for hsv1 and hsv2 were negative . but the urine test was positive for hsv 2 . is pcr more accurate or the urine in this case ? I have no symptoms . i recall having one spot years ago that was tiny and went away in few days . do I have hsv2 bases on these findings ?
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I read lots of reports that indicate many HSV 2 carriers are unaware because the initial outbreak is atypical and doesn't fit the burning itching blistering oozing horror movie details that is attached to herpes. So I ask what could an atypical outbreak look or feel like?
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I was diagnosed with HSV2 about a month ago, during which I had my first classic outbreak. I got it from my boyfriend, who did not know he had it at the time. I was tested negative for HIV, hepatitis, and syphilis at the time I was diagnosed. During my primary outbreak, I must have somehow touched the sores or the fluid and in the same week one large blister appeared on both my left wrist and left leg at the same time. I was put on Valtrex for 10 days and the genital region cleared up pretty quickly, but the ones on my wrist and leg took longer and I don't think they ever fully healed because there was always a red spot in those areas.
This past Saturday it came back but only on my wrist and my leg, not in the genital area. It started as just itching then by Sunday there was an appearance of a cluster of blisters in each area, where the first time there was only one in each spot. I went for a follow up appointment to my gynecologist two days later and showed him the blisters. But he was not very helpful; he said he only deals with the genital region and I had to see an infectious disease doctor. He gave me a permanent Valtrex prescription to take daily and I've been on it for 4 days so far and did the swab test on my wrist to confirm it was herpes. I could not get an appointment with the ID doc for another two weeks, and Tuesday night the spot on my leg was huge and red and swollen with cellulitis all over the area. It is on my lower calf close to my ankle, but I'd say the entire surface area that is infected is about the size of my fist. I went to the ER and they tried to tell me it was a staph infection despite hearing my story and put me on an antibiotic without answering any of my herpes related questions. It has been 4 days since I'm on Valtrex again and I've kept the area bandaged at all times and worn pants and long sleeve shirts.
Sorry for all the background, but I thought it would be helpful info to best answer the questions I have. I am concerned that for the rest of my life I'm just going to be a walking contagion that can spread the virus to everyone without knowing it, since HSV2 spreads frequently asymptomatically. I know that Valtrex reduces the number of outbreaks I'm going to have, but I'm more concerned with the areas on the exposed parts of my body and want to know exactly which parts are contagious to others and if I'll be able to tell or I will have to keep both areas covered the rest of my life.
My appointment with the ID doc isn't for another two weeks, and I cannot wait that long to have these questions answered because I'm getting sick over this.
These are my questions (please only answer if you've experienced this yourself or you are an MD, I know it's a unique case):
1. Will the areas on my wrist and leg always be a site for a breakout, and will these areas always have the potential to be shed asymptomatically?
2. What part of the outbreak is actually contagious? Is it anywhere that is red, or is it mainly just the blister itself? Will bandaging only the blistered area during an outbreak protect the virus from spreading to others or can it spread from any part that is red?
3. I've read that once it is in an infected area, the virus can spread to other parts close by on that same area, so is there a potential that the next outbreak will be further spread out on my arm, thus giving my whole arm and leg potential to shed the virus?
4. Will it always break out in those spots? I find it curious that this second outbreak (or continuation of a primary outbreak) only appeared in those spots and not the genital region.
5. I know women with HSV 2 can still have babies, but I'm concerned that if I have it on my wrist that I will never be able to hold a newborn baby. I know obviously if I have visible sores that I should avoid a baby at all costs, but what about when there is nothing there and it sheds without me knowing?
6. I'm concerned about it spreading to other parts of my body. I know auto inoculation is rare after the first outbreak, but my wrist is too close to my face for me to be comfortable.
7. What about shaving my legs? I know when there is an outbreak I should avoid the area completely, but when there is nothing there can I still shave over the area or will that spread the virus to other parts of my leg?
8. Manicures/pedicures used to be a huge part of my life. I would never want to infect anyone with this disease. Would it be safe to tell them to only touch my hands and my toes, or is this too risky?
9. My gyno placed me on a permanent Valtrex prescription. Is there a risk associated with becoming too dependent on antiviral meds, or a chance that the disease will become resistant to the medicine? I've also read that being on permanent antivirals can cause the virus to mutate and cause different strains.
I know this will probably take anyone forever to read, but I had to get this all out because these questions have been running through my mind for days and no doctor I've talked to so far has been able to answer them.
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I have the symptoms of lyme except for the characteristic bull's eye rash - chronic pain, numbness/tingling, fatigue, bad memory.
The ELISA test came back negative, I am thinking of getting the Western blot test done. Can the Western blot come back with a false negative?
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So my last cycle was in may, No cycle as of yet. But hpt came up negative twice. Yesterday I had sex, I ending up spotting. This morning was a brown discharge. I thought my cycle was going to come but it didn't. when should I take another hpt
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Well my situation is I had an exposure back in mid May, and I was tested with 4th generation blood lab test at just a day or two under 6 weeks, which came back negative.
I don't recall having any flu like symptoms such as sore throat, night sweats, or diarrhea, but I did have some dizziness when I moved my head up and down, and I had some fatigue, as well as a slightly runny nose at times, and I had some slight body soreness, but none of this was super strong and I did not miss any days of work or anything. I also had no appetite for a few weeks and lost about 5 pounds or so (I work out frequently). But honestly I could attribute the lack of appetite and subsequent weight loss to extreme anxiety, and also not going to the gym as often out of slight depression/fatigue/anxiety. I also had what I thought to be rashes (basically reddish areas on my cheeks, forehead and shoulders, but no bumps or anything), to which my doctor on the day of my test said were 'unimpressive' (meaning not resembling hiv rashes), and what I thought were swollen and sore lymph nodes, my doctor also checked and said he noticed no swelling, even though I thought they were. He also was very clear to tell me that one could not diagnose hiv through symptoms, but only a blood test. He also made it clear that if the results from this first test come back negative that I couldn't celebrate, as it can take up to three months for someone to show positive (full disclosure, he is a GP, and I don't think had much experience in hiv, and I also do not know how well versed he is in 4th gen testing parameters).
So as mentioned, had a 4th generation duo lab test after leaving my doctor (went to quest diagnostics) which was at just under 6 weeks, which came back negative. (I will tell you I was extremely surprised when I got called a couple days later and was informed the results were negative. I would've bet money at that point that I was going to hear 'positive', and even though I remembered being told not to celebrate, I felt so so happy and relieved. I even regained my appetite at this point, and felt better in general, started going back to the gym more regularly, etc, so I know anxiety is playing at least a part in the way I was feeling).
Then about a week later I got in the mail the script from my doctor for my follow up blood test, with instructions to go back for the follow up mid-late August.. which even though I was already aware of, just thinking about having to get tested again brought all my anxiety back.
I'm trying to really believe in those (just under) 6 week duo negative results before I go for my next test, but my anxiety has basically not allowed me to relax or accept those results being at least a strong indicator. I even called the Pennsylvania state hiv hotline a few weeks ago, and they said a 4th gen test at the point when I took it was MORE than ample time for the antigens/antibodies to form to a detectable level, that the 4th gen test is the best test available in the world, and at that by 5.5 - 6 weeks that was more than enough time for the 4th gen test to provide a correct, conclusive result. She basically told me over the phone that my test result was conclusive and my symptoms don't matter.
I felt a little more confident then, But what worried me some was at about 8.5 weeks (mid July), I got a painful sore on my gum that lasted about 2 weeks, and then at about 11 weeks (early August) I developed some small pink bumps on my left elbow, lasting maybe a week. And I'm not sure if this is anything, but for about 2 months now, the palms of my hands are consistently red with white blotches (not peeling or anything, and they turn white when I press on them), and also my fingernails have become pale (not white exactly, but a very pale shade of pink). Could these things be caused by anxiety? I have read that nails can become pale/white with hiv, but would that happen this early (less than 3 months), or is that more of a late stage thing? (Also, they haven't become brittle or cracked or anything, just pale).
I know that nobody on here can guarantee anything obviously, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to hopefully instill some confidence in me that these symptoms are being brought on by my anxiety, and that based on my negative duo test at just under 6 weeks, I should feel confident going into my 3 month test.
(which I am about a week or so away from, whenever I drive up the courage to go in--as much as I want to hear negative and breathe a sigh of relief and just move on, I don't know if I'm ready to hear the results are positive if that's the case).
I've just been engulfed in this stuff all summer, googling constantly and reading and self diagnosing and building anxiety. I was even up the mountains at a bachelor party this summer and found time to sneak away from my friends to Google hiv symptoms and test info---it's become obsessive.
I've read some posts that say a duo lab test which is negative anytime after 4 weeks is conclusive, and that is essentially what the hiv hotline advisor told me as well, some places said 6 weeks, etc, but I just have a hard time accepting that, esp with the cdc guidelines of 3 months, and with the symptoms I mentioned having.
So even with these '28 day conclusive' claims, and even though I had my test at just about 6 weeks and it was a duo blood lab test which from what I read seems to be all but conclusive, I still find myself worrying greatly about this next test at the 3 month mark, which I would accept as conclusive, but in my head, I'm already anticipating bad news. Is my negative 4th gen test at almost 6 weeks pretty much conclusive? Is it probable that a test just under 6 weeks can/will turn positive?
If anyone could offer some opinions on my whole situation to hopefully make me feel better, I would greatly appreciate it. I also apologize for the length of my post.
(Also I am I 29 year old heterosexual white male living in USA, in good shape, workout often, never have done drugs or cigarettes, rarely drink, and I have always had a strong immune system. Also, I am feeling fine physically currently, even with the symptoms I mentioned having now. Anxiety level still high though.)
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I'm still freaked out and stressed even had a sleepless night,yesterday I went for an hiv test,1st test came back positive,they ran another test that's called "1st respond to hiv" it came back negative,the nurse said we should re-do the tests again,they where done both of them again and they came back negative,I'm on separation for almost 7months now and breast feeding my partner came to visit me for a night a month ago,we had an unprotected sex,he even told me not to worry about anything,what you think I should do, Stressed and confused"
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recurrence of fever after 6 months after negative tridot test is this hiv
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So my story goes, between 5-10 years ago I had a few(approximately 4) unprotected sexual encounters. I never gave it a second thought as I was young and invincible plus, I had no reason to doubt the women I was with. Recently I started getting worried that I may have contracted hiv at some point during that time; a highly unlikely and unreasonable fear, but none the less it has been causing me extreme anxiety. Last week I decided to take an oraquick at home test and the results came back negative, easing my mind at that time. I then began to wonder if I preformed the test to the exact specifications (I was worried I may have drank some water in the 30 minute window before testing). So again, I went and bought another test, was sure not to drink for an hour before and again got a negative result.
My mind was at ease until I read that these tests have an 8% chance of false negative; which is strange because its the same test administered in clinics with 99% accuracy. My question: are the causes of false negatives typically due to user error or testing before the window period is up? Do I have anything to worry about?
I am considering taking another test or perhaps going to get a rapid blood test. I know my odds of being positive are extremely low but I keep focusing on the what if. Please help and thank you!
P.s. already in the process of scheduling an appointment to figure out this irrational anxiety.
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I made a horrible mistake back in July of this year. I had very brief unprotected sex with a csw. When I say brief, 10 seconds or less. Still a risk I know. Since then anxiety has gotten the best of me. Starting at the 11th week post exposure up until 4 and a half months post exposure I have taken 5 Oraquick Home test. All negative and followed the directions. The problem is all the stuff I read on the internet. Most if it's good, but then there are a few things that scare me and make me wonder if my test were right. I know not to believe everything I read on the internet, but it still scares me. I have had no symptoms and feel great other than my anxiety is through the roof. In all honesty, can I trust the home test results and quit worrying?
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