Herpes :: Asymptomatic Virus Shedding For Both Partners (no Symptoms)
Feb 18, 2016
My partner of 2yrs recently informed me that he tested positive for herpes and I subsequently did have a positive test. We both have no symptoms as this was only confirmed by blood test with mine having the higher positive value 1.30. We attended different doctors and he is currently taking valtrex as suppressive therapy since his is mild and my doctor recommended that I only take valtrex if I have an outbreak. I have been looking at alternative supplements as suppressive therapy could anyone share their experiences on the success of any alternative product. Personally I think valtrex is a bit expensive for daily suppressive therapy but I want to ensure that the infection is controlled or suppresses to avoid an outbreak of possible
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I believe I am asymptomatic. I have never seen and outbreak, but I'm unsure if I have them inside. My gyno looked once and said she saw no sign of outbreak or scarring.
I dated a guy who has had hsv2 since birth and he performed oral on me. And bear with me here, but I may have just answered half of my question. I still see no sign of outbreak, but after we made out, and the a few days later on the back of my tongue near my throat I think I had an outbreak.
I've had a few since, for the most part I think; unlike the first outbreak, I see just one at a time. There may be one other time I've had a few at once. I've never thought to get it cultured, but I will next time I see them.
So my question is, could he have infected me with his strand orally?
Secondly, if do actually have them on the inside, would they hurt? I can't find any information about that online. It mostly just pulls up basic facts about herpes. I've had an odor and I can't seem to what it is. Maybe weeping sores? Doctor gave a visual exam, no testing, and he said I checked out for bv. He seemed bothered so I didn't push for cultures. I keep coming back with uti tests positive for leucocytes (sp?) and there was a culture done on that, but they said it was just probably on my skin or something. I think it didn't grow or something. I digress, sometimes the odor smells like amonia, other times it is yeasty. Not to be weird or anything, but I used to have kind of a nice odor, and since shorty after the herpes it changed.
I should also mention I haven't had periods since 2013. I know it's unrelated to herpes, but do you think since I don't have that to clean me out, that may be the cause of my odor issues?
And instead of making a third post, what's the deal with herpes and tanning beds?
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I've been seeing this sweet girl for a month and a half now.
I know her background pretty well, as she's a friend of a friend.
She's a shy, quiet and reserved person with no history of STDs, and has only had one sexual partner before me.
Five days ago, we kissed and had protected sex using a condom.
Last night after dinner, I noticed a tingling/slightly burning sensation on a small part of my upper lip.
It's a sensation similar to when you have really dry and chapped lips, and the skin starts to recover, except perhaps a little more intense.
I'm really paranoid about having contracted HSV-1 orally, even though I have none of the other symptoms usually associated with an outbreak.
Because I'm a germaphobe, I live my life more carefully than most others; never really come into physical, skin-on-skin contact with other people (minus handshakes and hugs), and always pay close attention to what I do whenever my skin is damaged a little from being dry or cut.
Neither she (19 years old) nor I (23) have ever had an outbreak of cold sores, but I'm aware that you can carry the virus around all your life without ever knowing - that goes for the both of us.
Both her and my dad do get occasional cold sore outbreaks.
I guess what I'm after here more than anything, is a rough estimate on how likely I am to contract HSV-1 from her, with all the above details taken into account.
As a worst-case scenario, let's assume that she is carrying the virus, but is completely asymptomatic.
What are the odds of becoming infected from asymptomatic shedding?
In other words, what sort of transmission rates am I looking at for asymptomatic shedding?
If what I'm feeling on my lip is the beginning of a cold sore, at what point in time should I be able to SEE something on the lips at the spot? Because I've been up close with a magnifying glass and a flashlight and the area looks perfectly normal.
A related, but I guess more of a bonus question:
I called my doctor earlier this week, in an attempt to set up an STD screening as my new relationship becomes increasingly intimate - I'm confident that I'm clean, but it would be nice to have that confirmed.
I asked for an STD test and would like testing for HSV-1 and HSV-2 included as well, to which she replied, puzzled, why on earth I'd want that?
I explained my situation and that I'd like to know my herpes status, so I'd at least know where I stand in relation to my new girl.
She then said that she saw no reason to test for that at all, especially since I've never had an outbreak.
To be honest, this reaction from a medical professional kinda shocked me.
If a patient requests a specific test for a lifelong, incurable disease, why would a doctor stall like that?
At the very least, shouldn't she be interested in trying to prevent the further spread of the virus, by allowing me to know if I already have it - or if I don't have it, so that I'll be a bit careful about what I do?
Any input except "oh get over yourself, cold sores are so common, everyone has them!"
I'll take any fighting chance I can get, if it means I get to live out the rest of my life without having to constantly worry about infecting others and having blisters on my face.
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I have read that episodic therapy does not have any real impact on asymptomatic shedding, which suggests there must be a number of days/weeks of continuous treatment (as in the case of suppressive therapy) before this is effectively reduced. Anyone know how long that period is?
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I was tested positive for HSV2.
I've done the HSV 2 type 2 specific Elisa Euroimmun igg test
1st result is 43.5RU/ml July 28th 2015
2nd result is 23.9RU/ml Nov 4th 2015
3rd result is 54.9RU/ml Jan 29th 2016
Less than 16 RU/ml--Negative
16 and less than 22 RU/ml--Borderline
More than 22 RU/ml--Positive
I never have any visible symptoms, I understand that this is very common.
I would like to ask if I have itchy or tingling feeling at my scrotum or the base area of penis shaft. Is it every time I have this feeling it is Asymptomatic Virus Shedding?
Also I would like to know the best way to prevent passing this HSV2 to my gf if we would like to have sex.
I know wearing protection is a must, is there any ways that can further reduce the chance of passing it to her?
(She knows I am a positive, and she is not a positive.)
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I was tested positive for HSV2, but no symptoms
Also I would like to know the best way to prevent passing this HSV2 ...
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I'm just wondering what the chances are of getting genital herpes through oral sex when your partner does not have any visible outbreaks? I'm just curious, my boyfriend and I have never had cold sores, and we've only ever been sexually active with each other. It would be worrying if one of us suddenly got genital herpes in a few years time randomly, although it hasn't happened yet in the 4 years we've been together.
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Recently found out that I have genital herpes. It's scaring me because I'm a lesbian and I feel like I will never be able to have sex again. I have a couple of questions.
I'm in a relationship with a woman, would she contract herpes by giving me oral sex when I don't have an "outbreak"? Can she contract the virus orally?
What's are the risks and probabilities?
Can you have herpes 1 in your genitals or is it only herpes 2 in your genitals. What does this really mean?
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Often when I'm about to have an outbreak I feel a warm sensation on my mons pubis in the area that the blisters will usually appear. Can you tell me if the shedding only occurs from this area (where the blisters will be) or also from the vagina as well.
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I kissed and had sex with a female partner with unknown std status 6 weeks ago I have not had any symptoms but I'm scared il have a recurrent outbreak. The sex was protected. What are the chances that I had an asymptomatic outbreak and it's only a matter of time for a recurrence to happen. I'm still terrified please help
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BF of 1.5 years recently had his first OB, culture came back positive (they didn't test for which type) [I go in Monday to have routine blood work, going to request them add HSV 2] Physician did not treat him for HSV as his 3 ulcers did not appear to be HSV to the provider. His ulcers were painless however his malaise, fever and chills night sweats for 5 days bout did him in. II have HSV1 since a child. I Have not had an oral outbreak for 5 months. I am very particular and persistently cautious at the first sign of lip tingle, as I how contagious herpes virus is and outbreaks are frustrating. Even through all my meticulous behaviors, he recently contracted HSV1 genital. I am hypothesizing from oral sex 12 days prior while I was menstruating I must of have been shedding oral HSV1 without any OB sign whatsoever. ( generally I break out during menstruration in the past) timeline is the best fit his IgG is neg leading me to believe a brand new infection for him. I am devastated that without an active oral outbreak I spread this to my partner.
Lifestyle, eating and supplement habits to read up on to prevent future genital outbreaks for him?
How often is HSV1 oral shedding asymptomatic?
How likely am I to get it HsV1 genital from him now?
Are there any additional precautions to take the first year beside condom use, no sex during any hint or active breakout?
Over the years will be begin to shed the virus less?
Thank you
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I've been getting cold sores for most of my life and have always practiced avoiding all contact with a partner while having an outbreak. However the girl I'm seeing now had a cold sore once and never again since. Knowing what i know about the virus leads me to believe she has it but is asymptomatic.
My question is can I trigger an outbreak by kissing her with an active sore? Or is it "safe"?
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I had unprotected sex with a girl who had no obvious symptoms of herpes. She also claims she doesn't have it, which doesn't mean anything since she's never been tested. This happened about 2 months ago. I never developed any symptoms until maybe 5 weeks after the exposure. I started getting slight balanitis (redness around the ring on the head of my penis). About a week and a half or so later I developed a small bump on the base of my shaft, I poked and prodded at it and it went away within the same day. This bump was accompanied by pain in my right leg. I remember poking at it then going to the clinic to get it checked and when I presented my unit, it was so small that I couldn't find it, but I eventually did (it was maybe 1/4 the size it was originally). Anyways, the next day I developed a small bump on the underside of my shaft that was just plain red. I poked at it and pinched it to see if it would pop but it didn't. It scabbed because I made it bleed (I think, I'm not 100%). I then got ANOTHER bump the next day on the left side of my shaft that when I popped it white pus came out (so i believe it was just a pimple, this has happened before but its insanely rare for me to get a whitehead on my penis). Once that was gone about 2 days later I got another bump at the same location as the pimple which when I popped it, clear liquid came out with a little bit of white, but mostly completely clear liquid. I had weird feelings on my penis for about 3 weeks while this was happening also, like stabbing pains and twitching. Fast forward about another week and another bump pops up where the pimple was, this time I am smarter and decide to watch it without popping it. It shrinks to nothing in maybe 2 days. I should mention none of the bumps have ever itched, tingled, hurt (not even the slightest) or scabbed (maybe because I popped them all), except for the one where I believe only scabbed due to the pinching. All of this happened in the span of 4 weeks, about 4.5 -5 weeks after the possible exposure. I had a herpes IGG at 7.5 weeks which came back negative. I should also mention that I have very dry skin on my penis, which I've now been moisturizing. I also do still have slight balanitis, it was never itched or hurt and is only represented as redness on the rim of my penis. And not matter what, I'm going to get another IGG test at 13 weeks (I would do 12 weeks but I'm insanely busy that week with multiple midterms).
My questions are:
1) Is an IGG reliable at this time given my symptoms?
2) Do these symptoms sound like Herpes? I just don't know what else it could be.
3) Wouldn't the antibodies in my blood be detectable since I had been having symptoms for over 3 weeks before I got tested?
4) If I'm negative at 13 weeks, does that rule out herpes as the cause 100%?
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I had an encounter with a CSW Feb 2015 that involved unprotected oral (stupid I know) but protect vaginal sex. The next day I had a strong itch on my groin and the following day (2 days after encounter) I had a blister cluster of about 6-8 blisters in that area. The blisters went away without any scabbing within 1 or 2 days and never reappeared. I have had a almost near constant itch/tingling in my crotch in the same area ever since.
I had assumed this was a HSV-1/2 outbreak from what I had read, and I was unable to visit a clinic at the time. 13 months later, I get the IgG test and my results are:
HSV1 <0.1 negative
HSV2 <0.1 negative
While initially relieved, I'm worried that this <0.1 on both tests could possibly be a mis-test? I have seen many other tests here come up with number registering (example 0.27 or 0.5). Should I just retest or go for a Western Blot to settle this?
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I'm pretty sure I have HSV 2 (herpes) but I never got a culture, never had noticeable recurrent outbreaks, and have had a negative IgG blood test so I'm a little confused and want to know others opinions.
Almost exactly 2 weeks after unprotected intercourse I got:-
-3 hard red bumps/sores in a row in my pubic hair region (about the size of a pencil eraser)
-A few days later: extremely itchy vaginal area and thick, yellowish smelly discharge which lasted a couple days
-Possible "flat" sores on labia minora area (white circular discoloration, did NOT look like typical herpes sore clusters)
-The red sores on my pubic area seemed to crust over/come off (became flat, smooth, and whitish) after about a week then went away. I never noticed any fluid in them or oozing.
I never experienced any swollen lymph nodes, flu-like symptoms, or clusters of white pimple-like sores. I have never noticed any re-current outbreaks. I have no history of HSV 1.
Two years after possible initial outbreak I finally got a blood test: HSV 1 & 2-Specific Ab, IgG; Venipuncture
HSV 1 IgG: <0.91 Negative
HSV 2 IgG: <0.91 Negative
(index: 0.00-0.90, Equivocal .91-1.09)
I know there are lots of cases of people not producing antibodies, so I'm wondering if it's worth getting a Western Blot? Do you think the only explanation for my symptoms is herpes?
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So back in October, I had a horrific and painful outbreak of herpes, both near my genital area and my mouth area. I was diagnosed with HPV-1, but not HPV-2 (swab test). I recently got into a relationship and I've told my boyfriend what I had and we had to be careful. Just recently, I finished school and from the stress, I was developing mouth sores, and now all of a sudden, I noticed one bump on the outer area of my vagina (I don't know the actual terminology, but it's on the "hairy" part) that popped up yesterday, thinking it was an ingrown hair because I shaved, but now it's looking more like a blister than anything. It hasn't spread yet and I'm hoping it doesn't. My discharge is a bit more creamy than usual, but there's no burning while urinating or pain near the vagina. It seems normal, just not the bump. The mouth ulcers are nearly gone and I haven't been sick and I don't start my period for another 2 weeks. Last time him and I had sex was this past Sunday and we used protection. My question is, if I'm diagnosed with HPV-1, why am I developing herpes in the genitalia region? Isn't it only supposed to be on the mouth?
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I'll get straight to the point. Yesterday received results that I tested positive for HSV2, and its definitive being a 5.0 Igg. However. I have not had genital sex with anyone except my significant other. I do frequent strip clubs, and there has been occasion where as recently as a month and a half ago, my mouth came in contact with a strippers *** and clitoris. There was no bump or lesion, and from everything I've read, this is not an efficient way of transmitting HSV 2. My doctor has no answer for how this happened and I have had no physical manifestations of any type do viral infection. We are currently retesting to see if there is any kind of mistake, but as of now feeling pretty hopeless. Can anyone shed some light? The test I had was the Herpeselect Test.
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My partner got this the same time as me. Is this something that normally happens?
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Ok to start from the beginning I do suffer from cysts. And do have sex frequently with multiple partners . About two years ago me n my ex got a uti from a third partner went doctors got cleared about year later had same symptoms .. went away after about two weeks .. within the last six months I've had more issues pain swelling also note small white bump on testical (no pain or swelling of testicles ), pain in tip of penis ..again having multiple partners (female) I get tested regularly and have always been negative ..classified as general infection.. anyways I've been seeing a girl n just her and we had unprotected sex n I could feel with tip of my penis if felt rough bumpy .. anyways I had a small pimple like bump on my shaft I was able pop it but now all my glands are swollen around pelvic area n where the bump was is swollen affecting girth .. I have insurance but its just been to doctor so many times for this area its really embarrassing
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I'm a female in my early 30s and in May this year, out of the blue at work, I became lightheaded to the point I thought I might faint. I suddenly felt sensitive to light. I tried eating some fruit thinking I was low in blood sugar but it didn't help. It didn't go away after a day or 2 so I went to the doctor who said it was probably an inner ear virus that would go away on its own after about a week. Sure enough after about 4 days I felt better.
Then, in July the same sudden on-set of dizziness occurred but this time after a week it hadn't gone away. I would not describe the dizziness as traditional vertigo where the room spins but a more general light headedness that made me uncomfortable but not to the point of nausea.
I went back to the doctor who gave me every blood test under the sun, a 24 hour urine test and an ECG. Tests for those were all clear. In the meantime my symptoms were evolving. I was now getting a racing heart along with my light headedness and my dizziness was getting worse.
I went back and saw a different doctor who thought I might have BPV (benign positional vertigo)and sent me off to a specialist physiotherapist to be tested for this. The physio tests came back negative for BPV but he thought it might be some nerves in my neck being affected and started treating those.
Meanwhile, I was not getting better, in fact I was getting worse. The dizziness was constantly hovering in the background and my dizzy spells would flair up several times a day and last for around 1.5 - 2 hours. During this time I couldn't concentrate and was worried that I was going to throw up or pass out (although I never did). I would get light sensitive, a racing heart, tingling in my left arm and hand and sometimes the feeling that I couldn't get enough air/chest tightness. I couldn't trigger these attacks with head positioning - it just seemed random when they would come on.
I started to think that I had anxiety although I thought this would be out of character for me. One day driving home I had such a severe attack that my whole left arm felt numb, my left hand was tingling, I thought I was going to have a heart attack, I could barely concentrate enough to drive and burst into tears when I got home. I started to get afraid to leave the house in case I had an attack but had to as I work full time.
I went back to the doctor and got a referral for an Ear, Nose, Throat (ENT) specialist. The doctor also advised me it was probably not anxiety as I didn't have all the symptoms of that. I had to wait a couple of weeks for the ENT appointment during which time my symptoms persisted although I didn't have a major attack like the car incident again. Just these dizzy spells, racing heart, restricted breathing for 1.5-2 hours at a time. Interestingly enough, I had to fly for work at this point and the plane trip didn't seem to make any major difference to my condition.
The ENT sent me for a neurology/balance test along with a MRI to rule out brain tumour or MS. Another 2 weeks later I went back to see the ENT and get my results. Tests were all clear. By now I had spent $1000 on medical treatment.
The ENT advised me that I most likely had an inner ear virus and that there is nothing I could do to treat it and just had to wait for it to go away on its own. He said it could last up to 6 months. He advised to keep active - go walking, do gardening etc and get the balance system to re-adjust itself while waiting for the virus to go away.
All of the above occurred over a 3 month period. It's now been nearly 5 months since the symptoms started in July. I can still feel the light headedness hovering in the background ready to strike most times, and am living with a nearly constant anxious/nervous feeling in my chest which flairs up to a racing heart at least once a day. I'm only having the random dizzy attacks every few days now and it seems to be getting less frequent with time. I still get flair ups if I get carried away with being too active like bending up and down a lot washing the car. For a couple of hours afterwards I feel dizzy but it goes away. When I do have a dizzy attack it is less severe then it used to be as well.
Apart from the feelings of anxiety that this experience has triggered in me (which I still don't know if they are side effects of the inner ear issue or anxiety related to anticipation) it has also made me somewhat of a hypochondriac which never used to be the case. I'm hyper-sensitive to my body now and any sharp pain or cramp scares me and I think the worst eg. pain in leg = blood clot. I'm hoping once I get back to feeling normal again this hypochondria will go away too.
This worst part of all of this is that because you look normal on the outside, not sick, people don't understand how bad it really is to live with. Even my original doctor didn't seem to understand the impact it was having on me and my ability to perform my normal functions like doing my job.
I look forward to the day, which hopefully is in the not to distant future, where I feel normal again. I hope this post has helped give hope to others who may be in the same situation. It feels like it will never end, but it will get better, slowly, but it will.
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Following a throat bug/allergy in the spring, my throat became irritated by certain foods. I also had a bad cough, which turned out to be hay fever, and settled when treated. I was subsequently IGE tested and was diagnosed allergic to all items tested; tomatoes, onion, sweet pepper, lemon, kiwi & strawberries. Symptoms are an unpleasant tingling/burning mouth which can take 24 hours to settle. Antihistamines do not solve the problem. I have been prescribed Zantac/Ranitidine which I don't think helps. During the week I am very strict with my diet, and the symptoms settle. Then at the weekend if I relax and inadvertently eat a small amount of anything unsuitable, and enjoy a glass of wine, the symptoms return. Has anyone else had this? any advice would be great, thanks.
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