Honda - Cr-v - Clutches - Airconditioning :: 2002 - AC Compressor Plate Fell Off
Jun 18, 2013
While driving my 2002 Honda CRV (155000 miles) to work yesterday, I noticed the AC was working intermittently. Soon enough, I heard a loud clunk under the car and noticed a part had fallen into the street. I circled back and picked it up. After a bit of research I figured out it was the AC Compressor clutch plate. After doing more research I noticed that early Honda CRVs are known for having AC problems - and mine is not the first clutch plate to have fallen off.
My questions are as follows:
Is there any harm in (trying) to reinstall the clutch plate?
Does the fact that my clutch plate fell off mean something else is wrong (e.g., the compress has frozen up)?
If the compressor is bad does 'black death' always occur?
Finally, if I am going to replace the compressor. Do you recommend I just get an AC kit (compressor, condenser, drier, etc.)
I know this isn't an easy repair, but I think I can handle it with my father. That old fart can fix anything!
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