Touareg :: Hesitation / Slip Between 2nd And 3rd Gear Shifts
Dec 22, 2004
Having a very pronounced hesitation/slip between 2nd and 3rd gear shifts. It happens in both "D" and "S" modes. I've had the tranny flashes and they fixed the throttle hesitation and the general harsh shifting. Still have a slip when going from 2nd to 3rd.
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Well - took my car into the shop today for the death lag, harsh shifting, and acceleration during braking. I've read much on this site about tranny flash and ECU flash, and was hopeful there was something available for my 2004 V8 (I just purchased it in late October, but was unsure what TSBs and campaigns had been applied before I bought it)...
In the end, dealer was able to replicate/experience the harshness problem, but was unable to come to a confident solution. My 86xxx VIN V8 Treg was not due/eligible for the much discussed tranny flash (my engine type was right, but the tranny flash was not listed for my car). In fact there were no recalls or campaigns due for my car, and there were no faults on the computer.
The dealer stated the cause as "Harsh shifting patterns". and fixed via "Reset TPS and TRANS". Essentially, I was told, let the adaptive driving feature relearn, and hopefully replace the previous harsh shifting pattern. My ride home from dealer was short, so not sure if there was any effect - but I'm not confident.
2004 V8 Silver Touareg [Nav system, Sound II, Bi-xenon, Convenience Package, Parking Assist] VIN 86xxx
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On my V6 tdi , the converter bypass coupling is closed very late : generally in the third gear arround 2200rpm. In second gear i found that the transmission slip a lot.
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I just picked up a new 2006 Touareg V6 with package 4 Offroad Gray with all the fixin's. I'm still learning all the features of the car, I'm finding more and more innovative functions every day. I did have one "concern" that I have been noticing as I drive around, the transmission seems to want to hunt for a gear... sometimes when accelerating the tranny seems to get confused and shifts up and down suddenly before settling on a gear.
Also, this morning when I put the car in R, it wouldn't lock into reverse, it was stuck in neutral before it dumped into the reverse gear violently. The other thing that I have noticed is that it sometimes locks in gear when moving, it'll hold a low gear and not upshift when it should or it'll hold a tall gear and not downshift (for example it'll be in 6th gear even when I slow down to 20mph and then when I try to speed up it'll stay in 6th gear).
I believe this car is drive by wire and it's the first one that i've ever driven.... i've driven other autos before but they have been much smoother and more "direct" then this tranny. I did have an audi before this and that also wasn't the smoothest auto tranny either, it also seemed to have a mind of its own. Have people had these kinds of problems before and should it be something I should be concerned with or take back to the dealer with my concerns? It is a brand new car, i bought it with less then 30 miles and it has only 400 now. I love everything else about the car, the interior is top notch and the fit and finish is excellent so far, my only concern is the tranny.
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After they flashed the TCM (vin 34000). Did not notice this before flash. Mild acceleration in a continuing curve to the right as the tranny shifts to 5th wheel pulls sharp to the right. Like a strong twitch. Also does it in left turn but not as strong. Didn't really bother me (driving wife nuts though, and its her car) in the dry, but Sat. nite on snow/ice scared bejaysus outa me. Felt like I was going to spin. If I lift before shift to 5th it doesn't happen. "Twitch" is about like you would to to miss something in the road. Maybe not that strong. Car thinks continuing radius curve is a decreasing radius turn. Not good. Haven't found the right road to try it under hard acceleration
As an aside, Contis worn out evenly at 10,000 miles. Granted, I did remove a few pieces from them this summer, but overall tread is gone.No binding feeling on dry pavement. It does "crab", or bind at slow speeds tight turns on snow/ice, but so does my Yukon XL in 4wd Auto mode.Have to visit dealer anyway. Service fault workshop light came on a few times. Restart and it went away. And dash wood cracked.
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Since we know that most VW service sucks, I'm taking my 04 V8, Nav/Air Susp 35k miles in tomorrow because the whistling/rubbing noise was bad enough on the ride home from work last night that it started freaking me out.
I want to tell the service department to at LEAST check the following:
Whistling: Gets worse with speed and when the car gets warmed up. Sounds more like rubbing when you get going. Check the drive shaft bearing.
Running Gear Fault: Check air suspension piston rings ( I need to look this up again) Something to do with the air bag or air pump seal.
Hesitation: There should be a TSB for this that can be fixed with a computer adjustment.
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I have a 03 ex with a V10. Just recently my trans has started giving me problems. Sometimes when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd I get what feels like a slight slip. Sometimes it doesn't happen at all. Feels almost like it is downshifting for a second. It also doesn't seem to make any difference whether I am hard on the gas or not.
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I just picked up a 2004 Sante Fe with 150K for my daughter. "she loves it" I love to work on cars so didn't mind the mileage. I have shifting issues so I replaced the input/output sensors, when I started driving it it was back to what seemed normal with a little hesitation between shifts, now it's back to lunging while in 3 or 4th gear. Strangely to me the shiftronic works great without issues.
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Our intrepid 3.5L with 135000 miles has been acting up a bit. Its had a couple hard shifts over the last few days/week that almost seemed like an engine hesitation, and this morning when slowing down from highway speed into a small town, it abruptly shifted down to 2nd and stayed there like its in "limp mode" ??.
Pulled over and checked fluid. Level looked good and smelled ok but has a brown tinge to the pink fluid.
Started to go again and it still wouldn't shift. Pulled over and shut car off. Checked codes P700 and P138.
Started car up and it shifted fine for the next 28 miles. Shut car off and parked it.
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So long story short, my clutch is not disengaging all of the way, but only sometimes.... I have replaced clutch, flywheel, slave cylinder, new stainless steel clutch line and new clutch master cylinder all within this month. The same issue has been occurring prior to replacing all of this and also after replacing all of this. I've bled the system (with a power bleeder) more times than you can count on both of your hands so there is no way there is air in the system.
More details : The clutch doesn't slip in any gear. Stop and go traffic in first gear is really the only time I notice it not disengaging. I can't pull it out of 1st gear when it happens so I have to shut the car off to get it out of first gear. When it's stuck in first gear with the clutch pushed in (on a flat surface) and I let off of the brake the car creeps forward. Not at full speed like if I were to release the clutch pedal all the way but its still semi engaged enough to make the car move.
Replacing everything theoretically should have fixed all issues, but it hasn't. The only thing I didnt replace was this piece of the factory clutch line.
Tomorrow I am going to take the stainless steel clutch line and run it straight to the clutch master cylinder bypassing that weird silver box and hope that fixes it. As a side question what does that silver box do anyways?
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I have a 98 Suburban with a 4l60e rebuilt 13 months ago, less than 15000 miles since. I have no second gear at all, but still no apparent slip at all in fourth. R,1,3 are fine. The fluid is a bit dark red, smells normal. There was a bit of the grey paste on the magnet but no obvious trauma. I did find a very small copper wire in there. It's about a 22 gauge, looks like it could have been a 3/8" ring or retainer.
I've replaced the servo, and of course fluid and filter. I pulled off the housing for the 1-2 piston but didn't have the right part to replace. I did not see anything cracked or cocked, it came out and went in fine. The main o ring did look fairly warn, but seemed all-right.
A transmission tester showed second gear being called for on a test drive. I did get a P1870 slippage code a couples weeks ago, I have since cleared it and it has not returned. Could the copper 'ring' be a retainer for something related? I'm guessing the solenoid, but I believe it also applies to 4th gear.
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I own a 2002 W8 passat b5.5 that had issues from the used car dealer i had bought it from. I had 2 new motors installed over the period of about 13 months . The first motor had a bad torque converter and seemed to also cause my trans to slip. I am not sure if that is the direct cause of the trans slip going from 2nd to 3rd gear. The second motor dropped 4 valves in the cylinder "3" and cracked the starter. I had all the work done by the VW dealer that i used to work at.
As of today i seem to hear a knocking from idle to 5,000rpms, which is the highest ill push it. Now I know that a lot of of the W8 had issues with the torque converters. my current engine has just about 4k miles on it and I know vw warranties this motor up to 12k miles. That is not my concern, my concern is why do these motors keep failing under normal every day use in my particular vehicle?
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I'm getting a readlly hard thump or slam from my transmission when accelerating. It only seems to happen when it shifts from 5 down to 4. This is usually when rounding an exit ramp, then excellerating back onto a highway. It's really bad and enough to make me nearly wet myself when it happens. It feels like the transmission is going to snap in half or something.
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RX 350 (mine is 2013) produce a slight bump in revs as you decelerate moderately going from 2nd gear to 1st? It goes away after the tranny is warmed up. Wondering if it's just a result of the cold weather.
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I got a 2000 ford explorer with 151k on it... Since iv had the truck (5yrs) its always had a slight slip around 3rd going to 4th. The tran is auto!!
I use to be able to jump in and take off but here lately i have to let the truck idl for a few sec or up to a min before i can take off (warm or cold). This just started a month ago...
The trans fluid smells burned and it has be 2yrs since iv changed fluid and filter in the tran...Everything other then that iv kept up to par. What do you think should i start looking for something new or just change filter and fluid????
I know the truck has had a good life so I am starting to think the tran maybe trying to go.... My friend has a 85 dodge ram charger suv not sure the miles but its auto as well....It has a 318. Other then a small dent the thing look good... It has some kinda vacuum leak major but doesn't effect running. He told me the leak is from something he had removed when we left CA that they said he had to have for smog?
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I have a 2005 Passat TDI with 2500 miles & this car was wrecked and I recently got it back from the body shop. Well I now have a transmission problem. When I first take off the car feels like it is in a high gear. Then the transmission will slip. I have taken the car to the local VW dealer and they have given me the following information.
-Incorrect Ratio 4th gear #Code P0736 & 17110
-Incorrect Ratio 5th gear #Code P0735 & 17118
This leaves me with two options according to VW.
1. Replace the transmission
2. Replace the computer
2005 Passat TDI? Which would be more obvious as a problem?
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Recently upgraded to a 2015 DSG PP pearl white 2-door GTI. I'm really enjoying the car. It is my third GTI (MK IV, MK VI) but the first automatic. On the morning commute to work today my DSG straight up stopped working. While trying to accelerate from completely stopped at a stop light my transmission seemed to slip out of gear followed by the engine reving freely... A message appeared to "Press Brake". I had to stop my car in the middle of an intersection and then magically the transmission stuck in gear and i made it to the next stop light. Unfortunately at this light I was never able to get my car back in gear... I tried reverse as well as S mode shifting into 2nd or 3rd.
Had to get towed to the nearest dealership... at least I got to try out the carnet feature . Basically it is a glorified operator who will request a local tow truck for you. FYI.. I thought that the service would at least notify the service dept at the dealer it was being towed to (nope!). 5 hours later they gave me my car back saying that the cable between the ECU and DSG had come loose and that was the only problem.
So far the car seems to be driving like a champ again... I'm just a bit concerned as to how a cable can magically come loose and cause my car to be inoperable. The main reason I upgraded from my 2010 gti was the peace of mind that the car was going to be dependable...
A few questions... Is it feasible that a loose cable was the only issue? If so... how can a cable magically come loose after 2200 miles of driving? I could see this being an issue from the manufacturer but would think it would happen much sooner during the break in process.
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I recently bought a 2002 Accent with the 1.6 auto 133000 miles. I have been reading the postS around here about the crappy transmission. My car seems to have some life in the tranny still but it has slipped from 3rd to 4th gear around 45 mph when i get on the gas too hard. Its also a little sluggish to start off. My question is should i change the fluid out knowing i have a slipping issue? The reason i ask is that last time i changed the fluid and filter on a Jeep that was slipping i ended up having to rebuid it. Is that a real possibility if i change the fluid in this Hyundai?
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I have a 2005 Passat TDI with 2500 miles & this car was wrecked and I recently got it back from the body shop. Well I now have a transmission problem. When I first take off the car feels like it is in a high gear. Then the transmission will slip.
I have taken the car to the local VW dealer and they have given me the following information.
-Incorrect Ratio 4th gear #Code P0736 & 17110
-Incorrect Ratio 5th gear #Code P0735 & 17118
This leaves me with two options according to VW.
1. Replace the transmission
2. Replace the computer
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So I was on the free way in 6th gear and decided to get on it, the rpm's shot up and I barely picked up speed. It's only a slight clutch slip tho only really noticeable in 6th gear so I was wondering what clutch I should go with because I was planning on going BT eventually.
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Last night it was just below freezing and the roads were a little damp so I figured I'd see at what point ESP would kick in on a hard 2nd gear pull. Sure enough power cuts off at around 4000-4500 rpm.
Turn "off" ESP, try another hard 2nd gear pull expecting some nice tire squeal but I get nothing and obviously still no traction from 4500-6000 rpm. Was my clutch slipping? Is ESP capable of knowing when the clutch is slipping (I would think it had nothing to do with it)? Maybe it was just damp enough that the rubber was spinning in one place but it wasn't making any/limited amount of noise?
Car: GTI, Manual, Stage 1, Winter Tires.
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