Passat (B5) :: 2001 - Engine Cranks For Fifteen Minutes Before Start And CEL On


Mar 30, 2011

2001 passat, 1.8, manual 140K. Last Wednesday I went to drive south, and i turned the key. The engine cranked but it didn't start. After trying for a few minutes, and the engine stumbling after a few times, the engine started. RPMs were low, but after a few seconds everything was fine. The outside temp was probably 15-20f.

Over the next few days the car sat, except for once where I moved the car (outside temp was 35+), and it started right up. As soon as the temperature dropped to 18 or so, it did the same thing, crank and crank then start. I dont remember if it was then or wednesday when I got a CEL while trying to start the car. I checked it and got a P0321. Cleared it and havent seen it since.

Fast forward to sunday, morning was the same thing, about 10 tries until the engine started. I got a jump start in the afternoon thinking it was the battery. It started right up (temp was 30+?). The next day I decided to roll start it, started right up (temp was 15?).

I replaced the battery monday thinking that was the cause. But everything is the same, when its cold I have to crank and crank. Once the car is running, the RPMs are low. If I give it gas, it stalls. Once the RPMs come up, if I stop the engine, it starts right back up. Thinking it is a fuel problem, I played with the fuse.

Granted, the engine was warm when I did this. Engine running. Pull fuse out, after a few seconds engine stalls. Try to start, no go. Put fuse back in, engine starts right up on first try. So now we go back the CEL. I thought at first it was just a side effect of cranking and cranking the engine. But now I think there might be a problem with a sensor, engine speed sensor maybe? Coolant? crank?

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