LeSabre :: Courtesy Lights Stay On After All Doors Closed Causing Battery To Drain
Aug 7, 2014
Several times now I have found that the courtesy lights stay ON after all the doors are closed, and the dash switch is indeed off. This has caused the battery to drain.
I have opened and closed all doors numerous times and the light won't go off. I can't seem to find where the door switches are so that I can inspect them.
The last time this happened I was forced to remove the fuse, then the next day I put the fuse back in and the lights operated correctly.
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More questions
1. What the heck is a multiplexer?
2. What relay controls the cluster? Or is this done directly by the ECM.
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