Golf V R32 :: Crank Forever Until Low Oil Pressure Warning Come Up But Won't Start


May 24, 2013

My '08 R32 with less than 40k mi. will not start. The car ran fine earlier one day, then after it was parked for a few hours the engine decides to stay dead.

It will crank forever until the low oil pressure warning come up, but won't start. I also smell fuel when I crank enough times. It's not the battery, though I had to recharge the battery a few time from all the cranking attempts.

The fuel pump does prime when I open the driver side door and when I turn the ignition on. I disconnected the hose going to the fuel rail, and confirmed there's fuel flow when the ignition is ON. There is fuel in the car, about 1/3 of a tank. I even added 2 gal. of fuel just to be sure I didn't have a bad sender. There's no fault in the VCDS.

Things I replaced so far:

NGK laser iridium spark plugs pre gapped to .032

New coilpacks

Fuel filter

crank position sensor (G28)

My car is all stock minus a Forged intake to my knowledge. I bought the car used, so the previous owner might have APR reflash on the car. However, the day I drove it, I never touched the cruise control buttons that could activated the APR anti-theft.

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