Golf IV R32 :: Rear Brake Discs Don't Get Warm
Feb 22, 2010
I've noticed that my REAR BRAKE DISCS don't get warm (let alone HOT) to the touch after some seriously hard braking.
Obviously the front brake discs are proper hot, you wouldn't need to touch them to work that one out, just a quick splash of water on them would show you that..
But the REAR discs on my R32, I can touch them with my hand/finger, and they don't even feel remotely warm after some hardcore brake stops.
So I'm starting to think that my brakes aren't doing anything at all on the rear.
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