Camry :: 2002 SE - New Engine Mounts Now Rough Start And Idle?


May 8, 2016

I have a 2002 Camry SE (V6) with approx. 180K miles. The Engine mounts were shot so I decided to change them. I am a reasonably qualified mechanic (FAA Aircraft Mechanic) and perform most my work on my cars so didn't think this would be a big deal.

My procedure was to jack up front & put frame on jack stands then removed both wheels. Then with hydraulic jack and blocks under oil pan I started by removing all or the three lower engine mount hold down nuts (3 on bottom, 1 on top of each. NOTE: I changed the dogbone first which took 5 minutes.

I then jacked up engine about two inches or so and pulled out each old mount, then lowered engine back down making sure everything lined up as best I could. Then finished by tightening all of the nuts. Done. ....or so I thought.

When I went to start, the engine cranked but with a an unusual vibration and generally rough idle, more noisey than usual. When I drive it shift fine and everything works, just unusual vibration and noisey inside car.

I also used my BOSCH code checker and got ZERO CODES.

What is even more unusual is the engine when you are outside the car listening sounds fine. Just sitting inside do I sense the unusual vibration and noisy idle.

I checked for loose vacuum hoses, anything obviously pulled loose, etc and found nothing.

Again the car started and idled fine before the engine mount change now starts kind of rough and is noisy [inside car] but quiet outside.

nothing really changed except the moving of the engine block up and down to get the old mounts out.

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